Trans+ History Week

[zanahoria]

It is that time of year again, time to make stuff up and call it trans history!

Stonewall are starting us with the absurd fact that Joan of Arc lived and died over three thousands years ago

1479 - 1458 BCE: Joan of Arc was willing to die at the stake rather than stop wearing men’s clothing.

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/blog/why-do-we-need-trans-history-week

Feel free to pass it on or make up whatever rubbish you like!

Has anyone contacted them about this as it’s really bloody offensive to a lot of people and you know…offending people isn’t right. As they should know as the arbiters of who is allowed to say what.

Wasn’t there a pope (an exclusively male position) who was a woman and they only found out when she gave birth? And since then, they make new popes sit on a chair with no seat so they can check the genitals.
I can’t decide if this is transphobic or pro trans, but isn’t having your genitals checked one before being admitted to a sexed space one of the trans fixations?

In any case - popes - the swishy robes and bling. 🤔

Indeed, @MagpiePi

Another Joan. although apparently "Despite her medieval celebrity, most historians now dismiss Pope Joan as a myth".

https://www.history.com/news/who-was-pope-joan

@mumsnet why was my post deleted? i merely pointed out that we had just had an lgbt history month.

MillOnTheGoss · Today 09:15

"Men did not exist before 1860." - Edwina Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Noman Empire, 1920.

FGS! The Norma Empire, you massive bigot!

Ah, so it's a copy and paste error from their transing of Hatshepsut.

https://lgbtplushistorymonth.co.uk/lgbt-history-month-2024/

The link i posted earlier, showing that LGBT history month was in February.

If anyone thinks i am breaking a rule, could they explain.

She did. This was one of the accusations against her. She also slept among the men she was leading and wore armour.

You forgot Charlotte, Emily and Anne Bronte, @MillOnTheGoss, who were clearly the transwoman alters of Branwell Bronte.

Ooh,great name for a band.

On the subject of Trans History, there's an online talk hosted by UCL this Monday (13 May) by Dr Onni Gust from University of Nottingham.

Trans history: What? Why? Where?

Transgender history has developed at an incredible pace over the last five years with new research illustrating gender diversity across all time periods and regions. This seminar discusses the emergence of the field of transgender history, the challenges of researching and writing transgender history and why it is important. The ‘where’ in the title refers simultaneously to the geographical range of transgender history, the issues around subsuming different cultural practices of gender and sexuality into ‘transgender’ history, and the direction the field is going In.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/onni-gust-in-person-livestreamed-event-tickets-891878752357?aff=oddtdtcreator

BCE/CE are pretty standard academic usage now I thought - but that does kinda require not mixing them up and getting the actual dates right.

Ignorant idiots - such gross disrespect of womens history, they can't even bother to apply a bit of basic knowledge or proofreading while stealing it.

Why are you deadnaming Culler, Ellis and Acton Bell?
Don't you be starting on the George's Sand and Elliot.

'the challenges of researching and writing transgender history'.

I can imagine,it must be painful dragging all that bilge out of your arse.

save your sympathy for that twat doing a Phd in trans archeology. That must be a very long afternoon, poor lamb.

Pope Joan.

There’s been some interesting popey goings on over the years - Pope Formosus was put on trial for alleged bad poping, despite having been dead for a few months.

Anyway, you’ve reminded me:

Hmm. Laughed quite a bit at this thread. But I agree the utterly tone deaf, misogynistic flat-out lies contained the original Stonewall article beggars belief.

What kind of mentally stunted people have they got working for them who think this level of lazy bullshit is a day’s work?? Stonewall really need to either pack up their tent and close or fuck off to Qatar or somewhere that really needs some advocacy on gay rights.

I must say the forthcoming event with Dr Onni Gust looks very unedifying. My quick scan of Onni’s previous works revealed a word salad of publications attempting to connect every conceivable topic to gender and identity - by any means possible. Who funds this bollocks “research” and who is (voluntarily) reading it??

Funny how it’s always women’s histories traduced, isn’t it.

Henry VIII is so clearly a woman it’s a joke - jewelled knickerbockers and a spangled codpiece to better display her lady-penis.

The ‘where’ in the title refers simultaneously to the geographical range of transgender history, the issues around subsuming different cultural practices of gender and sexuality into ‘transgender’ history, and the direction the field is going In.

Sounds like a liminal place where unicorns eat rainbows and sleep on clouds when they're not being tamed by maidens and frolicking with Teletubbies.

Who funds this bollocks “research” and who is (voluntarily) reading it??

No one reads it.

This is the Emperor’s New Clothes.

There’s a load of illogical densely-worded bullshit that tires brains and people tasked with reading it clearly give up half way and wave it through.