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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Non binary changing rooms???

107 replies

Gcn · 04/05/2024 09:17

Name changed as outing. Yesterday a member of staff told me that "they" are unhappy using either the male or female changing rooms in work, because as non binary they don't feel safe in either. They've been using the (ladies) loo to get changed in but aren't happy and think we should provide non binary changing rooms.

I think that's madness. So they aren't happy getting changed with just men or just women, but would be happy to share a changing room with both???

Work is all about the kindness, and supporting staff - so I've been told by manager to find a solution.. Great

What would you do?

OP posts:
MagpiePi · 04/05/2024 17:57

GardenCherisher · 04/05/2024 13:00

You can't just relabel the Men's anyway, as I imagine any Muslim male employees - the more devout/conservative ones who don't shake hands with women and wear long sleeved tops and trousers all year round - may not be too chuffed.
And religion is legally a protected characteristic.

I'd have a meeting with them and HR (esp. anyone sensible with a legal background), get them to do as much talking as possible, say nothing yourself, and take it from there. With any luck the issue may evaporate...

It doesn't seem to matter about Muslim women when men who say they are female use female spaces, whether they are labelled or not.

agent765 · 04/05/2024 17:59

Gcn · 04/05/2024 09:26

Manager said we need to be considerate of persons feelings. Not sure how we do that. It's total madness

I don't have anything to suggest that hasn't already been mentioned but I wish I'd been considered this special at work.

SpicyMoth · 04/05/2024 18:36

Surely if they truly feel that unsafe they can simply change clothes at home?

Is it uniform they need to change into - I thought it was pretty common for most people to arrive at work already in uniform??

I also don't understand them not being comfortable in female changing rooms, or male changing rooms, so instead they opt to use a female loo....????
How is the loo any different than the changing room, do the changing rooms not also have their own cubicles?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/05/2024 20:35

ittakes2 · 04/05/2024 17:35

I don't know - but surely if we want to keep safe spaces for women the world does have to change for it to be the norm to have three options?

Where is the OP supposed to magic a third space from?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 05/05/2024 00:08

For 1 and 2, a survey of all male and all female staff would be appropriate,

The expensive part of this is inventing and building the time machine needed to include future staff in the consultation.

Codlingmoths · 05/05/2024 04:32

Submit a request to manager for constructing bathrooms for each gender, along with a list of 50 odd genders taken from one of the usual ‘we make up things about gender’ sources. Tell staff member manager has rejected this so I’m really sorry, we are all being oppressed together by manager.

unsync · 05/05/2024 08:08

swashbucklecheer · 04/05/2024 09:19

Change the male ones to non-binary. See what happens then.

Definitely this.

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