Furries in schools

[Jamfirstest]

I have name changed for this. Forgive me if this isn't the right board but I need to talk this through to get my head around this.

Another parent has just told me there is a furry community of young people at her dc secondary school which is in my city and an ordinary comprehensive.

The school is humouring the accessories and so on and they now have a designated room in the school to congregate. Apparently there was a request for a litter tray in the toilets though this was denied (google tells me this aspect might have been a hoax attempt).

The secondaries around here are super strict with uniforms. How is this allowed???

So I'm told some children will only respond in animal noises.

I knew what a furry was before. What adults do for fun is none of my business. But this in schools???? Or have I been under a rock?

School near me has a furry club and I've personally seen a child walk past me with a foot long fox tail.

For all the 'it's all a made up culture way!' bleaters, I couldn't give a single shiny shite if you believe me or not. Doesn't make it any less true.

Eh! This is literally a picture of a child in a mask, and somebody crawling on a playground. Is it totally beyond your brain to realise it could be another explanation for that.

Okay, i've looked through those videos of kids being stupid, as kids so often are.

Still failing to see the evidence of an issue. Kids being kids, what an absolute horrendous surprise.

I don't see any teachers pandering to them, I don't see any litter trays, and I don't see any bowls in the canteen 🤣🤣🤣

But this is Mumsnet, so please, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

If you don't think 150 students walking out of school in protest at being attacked by furries (and them not being punished but the kids who are attacked being punished) is "evidence of an issue" then there's really nothing anyone can say. And that's just one school. Lots of posters on this thread have had similar experiences.

To add to my earlier post,

First of all it's "there's no photographic evidence, I'll believe it if I see photos"

When photographic and video evidence is provided it's "there must be some other explanation for these photos and videos of schoolchildren wearing animal masks and jumping around on all fours and the large group of children, supported by their parents, protesting at the behaviour of furries at their school".

Then it's "OK so children are dressing as furries in school but that's just kids being kids and it's not an issue because I haven't seen a photo of a litter tray or dog bowl". 🙄

If this were any other issue you wouldn't be going to these lengths to deny that it's happening. As I said before, perhaps ask yourself why it's so important to you that this is all denied as a hoax.

The denial is presumably because if you've spent the last several years insisting that identity is everything, and anyone who says they are a girl or woman IS, then any evidence that this approach can be easily abused and is utterly ridiculous, is quite inconvenient.

Similarly though, if you've spent the last few years pointing out that believing everyone is who they say they are is a really stupid and dangerous practice, like many of us have, then we also need to be careful not to fall prey to hoaxes and exaggerations.

This.
Teenagers need boundaries. And adults should not encourage nonsense.

My daughter and her friends were thinking of joining a youth club. However, I couldn't find out who was running it or if they had background checks so I didn't let her go. She said her friends said there were furries there- then sent her a picture of a boy, with ears, tail, mask and cuff things who 'just meowed' when they spoke to him. So yes, it is happening. Late primary, early secondary age.

Please note that most schools don't allow filming or photos at school, many have phone bans. For obvious reasons. Kids have been expelled for filming teachers, for example, and sharing on social media.

The hoax isn't that some children and people dress up as animals, the hoax is that this gets 'pandered to' with 'litter trays' and exceptions to rules. It's bullshit- please, stop spreading it.

Also noting that Scarlet Blake, transwoman, identified as a cat and had been microchipped.

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This is a more articulate version of what I was trying to say. If you show me a child pretending to be an animal, I'm hardly going to feel any type of surprise.

It's all in the reaction to it, and I still see absolutely no credible evidence of that.

Indeed, There are no credible sources, posting online, and some of the least, credible news outlets, such as Fox News, have even said it's BS

Some of the least credible outlets have said that it's BS 🤣

@Boombatty

Then it's "OK so children are dressing as furries in school but that's just kids being kids and it's not an issue because I haven't seen a photo of a litter tray or dog bowl"

This isn't a direct quote from me.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying, even some of those sources which would normally jump on a story like this.

I'm talking Fox News, places like that. Even they know it's bullshit, and that is absolutely remarkable.

I would've expected a source like that to be all over it like a bloody rash.

I didn't believe this was real until I saw the same girl dressed as a fox (mask, tail) at our local park every evening.

She is alone and acts like an animal, moving on all fours etc.

My primary-aged children call her "fox girl" and find her fascinating!

I doubt she is allowed to wear the costume to school as our local secondary is quite strict on behaviour and uniform etc.

But when you say "It's bullshit" you mean the stories of teachers pandering to it are bullshit, not the trend itself.

The OP acknowledged that the litter tray thing was a hoax, but still lots of people jumped into the thread saying it's all made up, which I then would have taken to mean that the trend of children dressing up as or identifying as animals doesn't exist.

If you were a teacher who absolutely believed that a boy who identified as a girl was a girl (and we know from long and weary experience that there are many of these about) why then wouldn't you believe a girl who identifies as a wolf is a wolf? Do you think there are no teachers who fall into this category who think they need to humour the animal identity because otherwise it undermines their identity first stance on trans rights? I would assume they would be a small number but not zero.

@Boombatty

Fascinatingly, you've actually misquoted me twice. On both occasions making up an entirely new sentence.

It's therefore really easy to see how this type of rumours spread…

@Underthinker quite, yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about. I was reacting to the assertion that students are being given, litter trays in toilets, and also allowed to eat from bowls in the canteen.

I previously referred to how children will do stupid things, and sometimes identify with a tribe.

My whole point, and one I have reiterated several times, is that I don't believe there is any credible evidence of teachers, and schools, pandering to them.

And, to the credit of a previous poster, they did claim that a student had been given a literary…

And then, when they were challenged about it, immediately changed the story, and said that they weren't.

It's fairly easy to see how these rumours spread.

So you're now saying you're not surprised that kids are pretending to be animals in schools but when I and other posters mentioned that our DC have experienced this you didn't believe us and intimated that we are making it all up.

Could you not tell from the context that it wasn't a direct quote but describing/paraphrasing yours and others responses? I thought that was entirely obvious.

I mean given you've made up quotes from me and other posters on this very thread, you'll forgive me if I don't lend complete credence to the second hand rumours you post.

Ahhh some sense - It is exactly this!