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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oh look. The census data about trans people is deeply flawed.

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Citrusandginger · 23/04/2024 21:07

As we big bad terfs may have pointed out at the time.

Census data on number of trans people in Britain is ‘deeply flawed’

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/05f7ca79-be9f-47ec-9e82-7e6bf41bf863?shareToken=9879f52b6564237d8918ba035cd22c89

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NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 23/04/2024 21:28

As we big bad terfs may have pointed out at the time.

I heard that in the Baby Gruffalo 'Big Bad Mouse' voice.

I commend Biggs for the perseverance.

I didn't know that the question had its origins in Press for Change but it makes sense. Having failed in 2007 why on earth did the ONS go on to accept it for the recent Census?

TervenAcademicals · 23/04/2024 21:36

<Shocked Pikachu face>

Terref · 23/04/2024 21:38
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AutumnCrow · 23/04/2024 21:41

That is honestly one of the biggest and massivest surprises that I never fucking had

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/04/2024 21:44
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Astounding news.

RocketPanda · 23/04/2024 21:57
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Well that is a big surprise

Topofthemountain · 23/04/2024 22:08
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Who'd have thought it?

Feckedupbundle · 23/04/2024 22:10

Oh look,another 'the Terfs were right' thing. Who'd have thunk it?

AutumnCrow · 23/04/2024 22:11
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I mean, just HOW????? Who could have predicted this IN A MILLION FUCKIN YEARS

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/04/2024 22:12

I'm sure we will shortly be informed that we may possibly have been right on this one occasion, but for the wrong reasons.

AutumnCrow · 23/04/2024 22:12

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/04/2024 22:12

I'm sure we will shortly be informed that we may possibly have been right on this one occasion, but for the wrong reasons.

Is it on a deeply technical level?

Boiledbeetle · 23/04/2024 22:15
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😱

PronounssheRa · 23/04/2024 22:15
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Shocked, shocked i tell ya.

What a fucking waste of public money

Boiledbeetle · 23/04/2024 22:17
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Is anyone actually shocked?

Anyone?

Anyone?

anythinginapinch · 23/04/2024 22:19

I'm shocked. Deeply so.

PriOn1 · 23/04/2024 22:22

Having failed in 2007 why on earth did the ONS go on to accept it for the recent Census?

It seems likely that we’re looking at more infiltration. It would be interesting to know which staff controlled the decision.

It seems the Buttergasp hasn’t made it into the gifs here, but like the rest of you, I’m simply astonished this came to pass.

SabrinaThwaite · 23/04/2024 22:53

NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 23/04/2024 21:28

As we big bad terfs may have pointed out at the time.

I heard that in the Baby Gruffalo 'Big Bad Mouse' voice.

I commend Biggs for the perseverance.

I didn't know that the question had its origins in Press for Change but it makes sense. Having failed in 2007 why on earth did the ONS go on to accept it for the recent Census?

Let me guess … Alison Pritchard?

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2022/05/11/alison-pritchard-tra-behind-the-scenes-part-one-geo/

Alison Pritchard: TRA behind the scenes? Part one: GEO

Another Trans activist at the heart of the Civil Service.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2022/05/11/alison-pritchard-tra-behind-the-scenes-part-one-geo/

ThatPeachMentor · 23/04/2024 22:56

🤢

Zeugma · 23/04/2024 23:01
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Gosh, this has all come as such a surprise

Helleofabore · 23/04/2024 23:14

I am waiting for the next iteration of ‘both sides’ are bad. I am sure someone will post something. Or maybe it will be about how women said it . It wasn’t moderate enough. That’s why we didn’t weren’t listened to about the potential outcomes.

Mumoftwo1312 · 23/04/2024 23:22

"It is especially challenging to design a question when it involves a concept that may not be familiar to all."

Oh ffs it is not hard.

The question should have been "Are you trans?"

And all those foreign language respondents in Newham, that the article mentioned being confused, would not have been confused.

If you don't know what something means, you default to No. If you have never heard of the concept of transgender, you aren't transgender, so a default to No would be fine.

Who comes up with these census questions and why are they so devoid of common sense?!

Mumoftwo1312 · 23/04/2024 23:23

They could even have added an option "I don't know what this question means"

WallaceinAnderland · 23/04/2024 23:23
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illinivich · 23/04/2024 23:24

I think terfs talked in the wrong pitch. Too high for most sensible people to even hear.

I suspect TRA were keener to get trans onto the census than actual reliable information out of it.