Scotland suspends use of puberty blockers

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https://twitter.com/hannahsbee/status/1780892837678076261?t=6JtA7f3YW_O3F8WBU7l6GA&s=19

On BBC One O’Clock news now!

It's the absolute bare minimum they could do, IMO, but it's a start.

Yes - to do nothing would have been negligent but would not have surprised me. Not exactly an in depth report but better than completely ignoring it.

It implies it came from the endocrinologists who either weren't as keen as the activists and/or felt they were now completely unprotected from any litigation.

This is a decision that should come from NHS leadership not a political party, not even the governing party. It's a clinical decision and its high time it was treated like one.

That means making decisions that are supported by expert evidence not just ideological wishful thinking and not politics. It means not allowing patients and their families, or the organisations that claim to represent patients and their families, to impose on clinical decisions about which treatments are reliable and which aren't. It means insisting that that NHS clinicians follow medical best practice based on evidence (and not ideological wishful thinking!) when they make decisions about treatments that can have massive lifelong negative effects on children as well as the hoped-for (but still as yet unproven) positive ones.

That should be the job of NHS leadership.

Yet I see Shon Faye on BBC arguing for a "pause" to puberty.Why is the BBC still still doing this?
https://twitter.com/Jonnywsbell/status/1780908660765470975

Yep, clinicians can no longer say they were just following orders anymore.

It was a medical decision, but the political waters are changing too.

Scottish Labour are doing a huge reverse ferret. Demanding the Cass Report implemented in Scotland alongside the Tories.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057294-scottish-labour-back-implementing-cass-report-in-scotland?

Every time in the last year or so that I’ve seen a step forward (even the Cass review), I’ve worried that it won’t go further.

So pleased to see today’s news about Scotland because it gives me hope things are really changing!

Oooh. That's one to watch.

Labour will be gaining in strength in Scotland, remember, while the SNP are on their way out.

As soon as one of the tenets is conceded the whole edifice starts to collapse.

Because it's built on faith, on articles of faith, not evidence. Either you accept Transwomen are women and trans people are holy and not subject to the same standards/laws/rules as other people; crucially, without ever admitting that these are faith based positions, or you have to concede that these are faith based positions, and therefore you have to acknowledge that they are not material reality that one can base law, rules, or science/healthcare on.

Look at the debate in the Commons. The only points anyone could try to make to counter Cass were either fallacious (Dawn 'they based the report on two studies' Butler) or sentiment-based (Stella 'trans people are terrified' Creasey) or empty platitudes (Zarah 'trans rights are human rights' Sultana). They are all faith based catechisms. They don't mean anything, or they are clear and obvious mistruths.

Once reason gets a foothold the rest of it comes tumbling down. You admit that puberty blockers are not reversible, then you have to admit that the use of them is not based on evidence, then you have to admit that 'transition' is not based on evidence, then you have to admit that 'gender' is not a real, solid, measurable, describable thing.

It may happen slowly, but that is the tip of the wave starting to form.

Ross Greer talking absolute nonsense on R4 now. “Cass ignored all the studies that show the benefits of puberty blockers” etc
Sarah Montague at least trying to ask the relevant questions. Better than her usual efforts.

Is Ross sciencing?

Yes, the political waters are changing too as a result of the Cass review. As they should!

I forget her exact words but Helen Joyce has been saying for some time that transitioning children was going to be the issue that halts the gender ideology juggernaut. I think she's right.

See, as much as I'm against some of the censorship issues in play that are aimed at cancelling misinformation and disinformation (and catching writers like Stock in its net (see Unherd)), I have to grit my teeth when people are regurgitating lies like this that have been endlessly corrected.

100% it should be a clinical decision. Interested in where the decision came from within NHS GGC. Statement from GGC out saying the decision was made pre Cass Report in Mid March.

She didn't ignore them. She - and the research team at York! - looked at them carefully and saw they were based on sand.

Whatever. I expect they knew what was coming by March.

EXCELLENT post!

Completely agree this is an excellent post

It also shows why some adults work SO hard to not see it crumble

When it does it’ll be clear they were complicit in harms

And describing the report as “the landmark Cass Review”.

@RedToothBrush I thought the Sandyford may have been completely staffed with activists and so willing to ignore Cass. Thankfully I was wrong.

@ArabellaScott I also could weep with relief for Scotland's children.

That's a very old clip.

Yippee! What a relief

I listened to the Ross Greer interview and he said 2 opposing things: he said that clinical decisions are for doctors to make and not for politicians to make AND he said that he doesn’t like this clinical decision, doesn’t think it should have been made and (given the clinic falls within his constituency) he is writing to the clinic to query their clinical decision 🤷‍♀️🙄