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GIDS clinics will now comply with Cass

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 20:08

The 6 GIDS clinics that refused to comply with Cass will now give up their data

https://x.com/transgendertrd/status/1779175082193043622?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

https://x.com/transgendertrd/status/1779175082193043622?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 20:08

Just do it doesn’t get lost with everything moving so fast :)

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GodZilah · 13/04/2024 20:09

9000 children.

Children

Horrific.

GCITC · 13/04/2024 20:14

"The clinics are also said to have complained that the “unintended outcome of the study is likely to be a high-profile national report that will be misinterpreted, misrepresented or actively used to harm patients”."

They already know how bad the results of the study are. I'm sure it will be a sobering read.

OvaHere · 13/04/2024 20:18

GCITC · 13/04/2024 20:14

"The clinics are also said to have complained that the “unintended outcome of the study is likely to be a high-profile national report that will be misinterpreted, misrepresented or actively used to harm patients”."

They already know how bad the results of the study are. I'm sure it will be a sobering read.

They know. They've always known. Heads should roll and prosecutions be forthcoming. Anything less is a travesty.

GodZilah · 13/04/2024 20:20

Will this give numbers on detransitioners?

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 20:36

Does anyone have an idea of how long this next piece of work might take?

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 20:38

GodZilah · 13/04/2024 20:20

Will this give numbers on detransitioners?

I'd imagine so, if they're tracking the data through NHS numbers....

MuddlingMackem · 13/04/2024 20:39

Swashbuckled · Today 20:36
Does anyone have an idea of how long this next piece of work might take?

Presumably depends on whether or not the clinics have actually done the follow ups, or if those compiling the data are going to have to follow up themselves. 😕

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 20:57

@MuddlingMackem

I'd made the assumption that there will be no records available of any follow-ups done by the clinics, but that's true; there may be.
If there are, will they be complete and can they be trusted?

There will have been suicides, for example, and I just can't see the clinics as having had the motivation to monitor the patient journeys to this degree.

I know, I'm cynical 🤣

Hoardasurass · 13/04/2024 21:02

I'm really not surprised by any of this. They know fine well what they've doing to these poor kids (16+) and young adults and didn't care, they're only cooperating now because they are being forced to.

A bit more info about the Nottingham clinic and the guy who works for them and WPATH whilst helping to set up the new pilot clinics.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/12/nhs-trangender-doctor-jonathan-arcelus-male-female-genitals/

GIDS clinics will now comply with Cass
Igmum · 13/04/2024 21:09

They have always known. They put their own ideology ahead of the health of real patients, ahead of the health of children. Thank goodness they have bowed to pressure, thank goodness for this sunlight, but it should not have taken this. Those poor children have effectively been sacrificed to the TRA gods. I am angry and I am heartbroken on their behalf.

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 21:12

This might be a stupid question, but will Cass herself be doing this piece of work as an extension of the original review? (It would have been her doing it had they been submitted when requested.)

RethinkingLife · 13/04/2024 21:34

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 21:12

This might be a stupid question, but will Cass herself be doing this piece of work as an extension of the original review? (It would have been her doing it had they been submitted when requested.)

York will under the aegis of the CYP Gender Dysphoria Research Oversight Board.

However, Cass is a member of the CYP Gender Dysphoria Research Oversight Board that will be responsible for the governance.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/spec-services/npc-crg/gender-dysphoria-clinical-programme/implementing-advice-from-the-cass-review/cyp-gender-dysphoria-research-oversight-board/

NB: NHS England will be recruiting for the lived experience members of this board in the fairly near future. @rogdmum and others.

NHS commissioning » Children and Young People’s Gender Dysphoria Research Oversight Board

Health and high quality care for all, <br />now and for future generations

https://www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/spec-services/npc-crg/gender-dysphoria-clinical-programme/implementing-advice-from-the-cass-review/cyp-gender-dysphoria-research-oversight-board#:~:text=Research%20Oversight%20Board-,Children%20and%20Young%20People's%20Gender%20Dysphoria%20Research%20Oversight%20Board,they%20are%20shaped%20and%20developed.

Swashbuckled · 13/04/2024 22:02

@RethinkingLife

Thank you ☺️

RainWithSunnySpells · 13/04/2024 23:01

The Telegraph article.
https://archive.ph/k9Aqq

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