Lmao at JOB dealing with Cass

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Incredible umming and ahhing on James o'Brien's LBC radio show this morning about Cass Review. After being part of the witch hunt now of course he's doing a Mr Rational word salad devoid of self reflection.

"How to be right" my arse.

Turning this insufferable crap off now but would be quite funny were it not so serious.

Men like JOB who have been to the poshest of the posh all-male public schools are often the worst on this. Even though he now criticises his school for its abusive atmosphere, he is totally a creation of it.

Agree.

I went out with someone who went to the same school as JOB (Ampleforth, posh catholic school named extensively in the independent enquiry into child sexual abuse).

On the surface he was woke as anything, had reacted against his backgrounds and was the black sheep of his very right wing family.

He was very smug about his left wing credentials but the misogyny really wasn't far from the surface.

Incidentally, Ampleforth had what were referred to as 'monks of concern' rambling around the school premises. Basically adult males who had not been DBS checked and weren't actually part of the school just freely roaming the grounds.

I do wonder if that's partly why JOB thinks women and children don't deserve safeguarding now; because he didn't receive it himself as a child.

He's a man I think would benefit from a lot of therapy.

ArtfullyCrumpled · Today 09:02

I can't fathom out how he reached the belief that children and adults can be born in the wrong body.

It's because - and sorry for the technical jargon - he's a fucking idiot.

iirc, JOB was adopted and had a scholarship to Ampleforth (I think).

Interestingly, Douglas Murray had a scholarship to Eton but that didn't kick in until sixth form but still in enough time for him to reap the advantages of it.

I wish education could create confidence like this in everyone with this potential. It's just struck me that I only know about things like this for men so I'd be grateful to pointers to any women for whom something comparable happened that shaped their confidence, connections, and career path.

I suspect being in an abusive school environment, however posh, has exactly the same effect as being in a gang where rape and being pimped out is used to establish status. The boys who are victims grow into men who abuse anyone they see as weaker than themselves to rebuild the sense of self and self-respect that they lost. And that often means women.

Even if they reject physical violence, the need to be the one with power remains.

Spot on. My guy had an obsessive 'need' to be in control. He was a small guy and fairly 'beta' in presentation (hate that term but it's descriptive) so used to control emotionally rather than physically.

(((@tickabillatoon )))

JoB currently broadcasting over the airways a hilarious Friday fun item on "mansplaining". "It's when men explain something to women who know have more knowledge or experience of the thing"

hahahahahahaahaajaajaaahahahahahajaaaaaaaaaaaaa That's MAD JAMES HAHAHAHAHAA that's just MAD"

Someone in his production team has a sense of humour.

Irregular verb theory in action.

I am firm, you are stubborn, he/she is a pig-headed, rigid, anally retentive stick-in-the mud. (Blue Genes, Val McDermid)

Perhaps JOB thinks:

I am a Socratic educator, using my skills to enlighten women as to the error of their thinking/ways/experiences that have shaped their misguided views and opinions.
You are a mansplainer.
They are misogynists of the sort who'd tell the 'blonde with two black-eyes' joke unironically.

You used to be annoying in your dogged defense of the indefensible, but now you just seem sad and quite sweet.

Love this!!!

I went out with someone who went to the same school as JOB (Ampleforth, posh catholic school named extensively in the independent enquiry into child sexual abuse).

Oh, JOB had a Catholic education? That explains quite a lot.

Not just any Catholic education, the 'we're more exclusive than Eton' kind. I've known a few of them. Not quite as screwed up as the Stoneyford one, but getting there.

It's just occurred to me that one of the old Ampleforthians I know has exhibited another classic response of a child trapped in an abusive environment - getting immensely fat to put off the predator. Which may be why he is otherwise slightly easier to deal with than some of his schoolfellows.

Blimey, I hope it wasn't as simplistic as that. There was an awful lot of power politics; Luther was campaigning for reform of a lot more than the doctrine of transubstantiation, and there were vested interests both within the church and in related political circles. I would agree that when people get into entrenched positions, common sense often goes out of the window.

@tickabillatoon
He's a man I think would benefit from a lot of therapy.

He's had a lot of therapy. He constantly bangs on about it. He claims that he used to be arrogant and dismissive of differing views, but not any more. All. thanks to therapy!

Christ on a pogo stick! What was he like before they fixed him?

@SinnerBoy you sure do have a way with words

It was a 4 or 5 parter, it was quite in depth I think.

(I’ve learned nothing of history listening to TRIH apart from some stuff about monkeys)

I stopped watching The Last Leg because I couldn’t bear watching these men cheer lead in favour of wrecking women’s safety, dignity and rights.

It must be lovely to be a male celebrity and to be able to jump onto a nice, fashionable bandwagon and get all the wokster plaudits, without it costing you or your sex anything.

I used to love TLL but now I hope the programme dies a swift death.

Wow,that was money well spent.

Even if most people don’t experience gender dysphoria, pretty much everyone people will have to tolerate being in a ‘wrong’ body, whether that is experiencing puberty, pregnancy, infertility, miscarriage, illness, disability or aging.

Sore knees and increasingly inaccessible feet. I identify as being more flexible.