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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lmao at JOB dealing with Cass

123 replies

m00ngirl · 10/04/2024 10:16

Incredible umming and ahhing on James o'Brien's LBC radio show this morning about Cass Review. After being part of the witch hunt now of course he's doing a Mr Rational word salad devoid of self reflection.

"How to be right" my arse.

Turning this insufferable crap off now but would be quite funny were it not so serious.

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ResisterRex · 10/04/2024 15:35

MishyJDI · 10/04/2024 14:12

The Cass Report is already discredited. It is a political positioning. Extremely Sad. They dismissed most studies showing the success of blockers because they were not double blinded control studies and newer studies of the last two years.

This is a next to impossible standard, and not one you see elsewhere. It's unethical to do this type of control study on kids - like giving one a parachute and one none when the plane is crashing.

What a complete load of toss, biased, and not worthy of he paper written on.

It's unethical to do this type of control study on kids - like giving one a parachute and one none when the plane is crashing

When they say the quiet part out loud and all that.

ApocalipstickNow · 10/04/2024 15:42
Bobs Burgers Straws GIF

Actual footage of Mish.

ApocalipstickNow · 10/04/2024 15:43

And of course in Mish’s world you don’t give either kid a parachute you tell them you believe they can fly.

mirax · 10/04/2024 16:03

ApocalipstickNow · 10/04/2024 15:43

And of course in Mish’s world you don’t give either kid a parachute you tell them you believe they can fly.

Mishi is all for a bit of magical thinking. What could go wrong?

StephanieSuperpowers · 10/04/2024 16:04

And if anything does go wrong, it's clearly the child's fault and nothing to do with any adults validating any delusion. So it's all fine.

ApocalipstickNow · 10/04/2024 16:05

And all the while Mish and mates are flying the plane into a mountain.

Cass0 · 10/04/2024 16:23

StephanieSuperpowers · 10/04/2024 16:04

And if anything does go wrong, it's clearly the child's fault and nothing to do with any adults validating any delusion. So it's all fine.

And don't forget, when that child falls, crashes and cries about their experience you gaslight the child and tell them they 'weren't really the type to fly in the first place, they're just a pretender so not a real representative of the flying movement'

dunBle · 10/04/2024 16:38

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 10/04/2024 12:22

I like James O Brian generally but like a few others, he got the gender issue totally wrong and jumped on the wrong ship . I hope he reads the report thoroughly and reconsiders his past views . Ditto the Last Leg ( Alex and Adam not Josh ) and The Good Law Project who I wrote to this morning on the back of the Cass publication .

personally I will welcome them back like the prodigal son if they reflect and reconsider .

It's a shame the recent series of The Last Leg finished last week, otherwise I'd be tempted to tweet to them "#isitok to think that after the publication of the Cass Report this week, lots of people owe JK Rowling, Graham Linehan, Rosie Duffield and too many grassroots feminists to name a massive apology?"

ACatCalledPushka · 10/04/2024 17:03

Tom Swarbrick is doing a much better job.

JeannieDark · 10/04/2024 17:03

I mean....parachutes do go through rigorous testing before being used at least.

RethinkingLife · 10/04/2024 17:36

In general, the parachute comparison is rarely helpful.

Decent, quick overview of why.

Hayes MJ, Kaestner V, Mailankody S, Prasad V. Most medical practices are not parachutes: a citation analysis of practices felt by biomedical authors to be analogous to parachutes. CMAJ Open. 2018 Jan 15;6(1):E31-E38. doi: 10.9778/cmajo.20170088. PMID: 29343497; PMCID: PMC5878948.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5878948/

Most medical practices are not parachutes: a citation analysis of practices felt by biomedical authors to be analogous to parachutes

In a 2003 paper in BMJ, the authors made the tongue-in-cheek observation that there are no randomized controlled trials (RCTs) of parachutes. This paper has been widely read, cited and used to argue that RCTs are impractical or unnecessary for some me...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5878948

Rainbowshit · 10/04/2024 17:40

MishyJDI · 10/04/2024 14:12

The Cass Report is already discredited. It is a political positioning. Extremely Sad. They dismissed most studies showing the success of blockers because they were not double blinded control studies and newer studies of the last two years.

This is a next to impossible standard, and not one you see elsewhere. It's unethical to do this type of control study on kids - like giving one a parachute and one none when the plane is crashing.

What a complete load of toss, biased, and not worthy of he paper written on.

Clutching at straws mishy

KellieJaysLapdog · 10/04/2024 17:48

popebishop · 10/04/2024 12:33

Posters on this forum have been predicting the reactions of the oh-so-sensible men types for years...

'Ok so women may have been saying this stuff for years, paying attention to the evidence and bringing it to our attention... but they did it in a way I didn't really like, so there was no way I could have known not to dismiss and mock them and listen to what was actually being said...'

Our voices were just too high and squeaky for the menfolk to hear us… too shrill.

KellieJaysLapdog · 10/04/2024 17:49

MishyJDI · 10/04/2024 14:12

The Cass Report is already discredited. It is a political positioning. Extremely Sad. They dismissed most studies showing the success of blockers because they were not double blinded control studies and newer studies of the last two years.

This is a next to impossible standard, and not one you see elsewhere. It's unethical to do this type of control study on kids - like giving one a parachute and one none when the plane is crashing.

What a complete load of toss, biased, and not worthy of he paper written on.

You big, daft, sausage!

blackcherryconserve · 10/04/2024 17:50

Vanessa men should be allowed in womens sports feltz is a ghastly woman. In fact any woman who agrees with this tosh is ghastly too.

BoreOfWhabylon · 10/04/2024 17:58

Apparently JOB had Freda Wallace on Grin

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 10/04/2024 17:58

You big, daft, sausage!

And this is one of the many reasons I love Mumsnet. 😀

ditalini · 10/04/2024 18:09

What an excellent example by Mishy of why trial designs that minimise the risk of various biases are so important.

"Our treatment is so obviously right that it would be unethical not to test it." Hmmm.

ditalini · 10/04/2024 18:13

ditalini · 10/04/2024 18:09

What an excellent example by Mishy of why trial designs that minimise the risk of various biases are so important.

"Our treatment is so obviously right that it would be unethical not to test it." Hmmm.

On app so can't edit, obviously that was meant to point out Mishy's desire for medications with potentially irreversible effects NOT to be tested to see if they work better than other available options because... WPATH.

Tinysoxxx · 10/04/2024 18:16

MishyJDI · 10/04/2024 14:12

The Cass Report is already discredited. It is a political positioning. Extremely Sad. They dismissed most studies showing the success of blockers because they were not double blinded control studies and newer studies of the last two years.

This is a next to impossible standard, and not one you see elsewhere. It's unethical to do this type of control study on kids - like giving one a parachute and one none when the plane is crashing.

What a complete load of toss, biased, and not worthy of he paper written on.

The way you phrase things makes me read them in the voice of Donald Trump. Sad.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/04/2024 18:21

Are you just spamming this mindlessly on every post about this?

Looks like it.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 10/04/2024 18:23

dunBle · 10/04/2024 16:38

It's a shame the recent series of The Last Leg finished last week, otherwise I'd be tempted to tweet to them "#isitok to think that after the publication of the Cass Report this week, lots of people owe JK Rowling, Graham Linehan, Rosie Duffield and too many grassroots feminists to name a massive apology?"

Funny that I was thinking of doing exactly the same thing!

RedToothBrush · 10/04/2024 19:12

Cass0 · 10/04/2024 14:29

Are you just spamming this mindlessly on every post about this? 😂😂

Loving this.

As if spamming with a post that actually says the sum total of fuck all other than 'wahwah I don't like it' is going to make a difference.

ZeldaFighter · 10/04/2024 19:36

Come now, of course I believe anonymous poster Mishy on the Internet, rather than retired consultant paediatrician and an ex-president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Dr Hilary Cass. I mean, she only bothered to do a 4 year study - how worthwhile is that?

Obviously being sarcastic!

WickedSerious · 10/04/2024 20:11

BoreOfWhabylon · 10/04/2024 17:58

Apparently JOB had Freda Wallace on Grin

It doesn't get much more desperate than this.