Biology is not as simple as one might think trust me i am a biologist….

[Karensalright]

Is it the case that those supporting gender ideology have developed a new tactic? Coming on here pretending to be a scientist stating their profession, and then proffering their expert knowledge via a link to wiki?

Surely if they were telling the truth they would link us to a peer review paper from a scientific website.

Is it a new trend or have I just cottoned on to it. In an attempt to influence new comers.

Replies and discussion gratefully appreciated, as long as you don't point out that i can be a bit thick..

Maybe that's why they died out. The men couldn't find enough cute fluffy furs and froze to death.

I wondered about Mishy and a few other absences when that thread made it all the way to 40 pages without them showing up.

A few 'new faces' rehashed the same tired old arguments and refused to answer the same questions. So will still don't know what a woman is if it's not a adult human female. Or how we make laws based on things that can't be defined. Or indeed if there are people who are really in favour of mixed sex boxing.

The wait continues, fortunately I'm not holding my breath.

The other thing i have realised is I can commonly tell now if the poster is a male biologically, if they go beyond two sentences, because seemingly males write in a certain way, that is as obvious as a biological male in a dress.

Whatever it is they say.

Pondering if MNHQ ought to ask account holders what bio sex they are to prevent fibbing. (Think am risking a deletion)

Yep, first two paragraphs are true, no issues there. Third paragraph is completely unsupported by the first two, and are just her “reckons”. As in, she reckons that might be why trans people are trans. No evidence to back it up (because there isn’t any, cis men and trans men have exactly the same levels of oestrogen and progesterone). I’d mark down a med school essay which made a logical jump like that.

Fourth paragraph is just a random anecdote about being a tomboy.

Or they did flappy hand running, fell over in bushes and the sabre toothed tigers did the rest. Having a happy moment imagining Dylan M trying to outrun a sabre tooth and squealing .

During the Covid vaccination programme I worked in one of the mass vaccination centres and was asked to talk to a lady who had come for her vaccination but her daughter who ‘has a background in biology and medicine’ was very worried about her having the vaccine because she thought it wasn’t safe. I spent about 20 mins going through it all with her and she went ahead.

The nurse who did the vaccination later told me that she had discovered while chatting to the patient that her daughter’s medical and biology background was….sitting A level biology!

I prescribe testosterone to women as part of their HRT.

Some days I can’t get through morning surgery without hearing about how a previously delicate little flower who used to love dresses and kittens now likes nothing better than drinking beer, doing DIY and scratching their bum while burping.

Its all about the hormones innit?

Sounds like my boys

had a disagreement about bees at the weekend and i assumed as they were both so adamant that i had it wrong and i went away to google

turns out they were getting their information from the bee movie 😳

they are 20 and 25

I have it on good authority that Neanderthals were TERFS.

You told me that appointment was confidential!

I was following that thread with interest. Why was it closed? Some thoughtful posts on it not from the original OP…

@DrBlackbird it was full up, ran to the page limit

Ah, that’s better. As usual, I found it an interesting thread for the thoughtful GC replies and illuminating for other’s thought processes. The attempt to dismiss GC women using an ageist slur was expected but v heartening to read replies from a wide variety of ages refuting the OP.

@PurpleSparkledPixie - used to be Royce's but now Bentley?
If so - I wave to you !

@ColinRobinsonsFart wish I could wave back but I mean ✈ not 🚘.

I'm a biologist, have been professionally for about 25 years. My knowledge of human biology however is pretty basic (other than awe at human biology in pregnancy and labour) and hasn't really been updated since school.

I do however have a well developed bull shit radar. Most of my job is pulling other peoples arguments apart. The first thing I look at is correct use of language and clarity of argument. Somebody who properly understands a subject can always explain it clearly and in non technical language. Somebody who overcomplicates doesn't understand or is trying to hide something.

One thing i do know, human beings cannot change sex. Its biologically impossible unless the definition of sex is changed.

Most people do t provide evidence of anything, and even fewer recognise a credible source.

Well I have a Grade A GCSE in Biology. I kinda remember that flowers have stamens and/or pistils. That makes me an authority right?

Absolutely. In my experience an astonishing number of (reasonably intelligent) people don't even know which chromosomes relate to which sex, and wouldn't have even heard of the SRY gene.

You missed some fun A Level words I loved saying:
Endoplasmic reticulum
Golgi apparatus
Glomerulus

edit: to @JanesLittleGirl

Just looked SRY gene thingy, seemingly that’s why TRAs argue we all start out as females in the womb, though obviously that gene trigger is required in a male, to be male.

Thanks for the education.

Actual footage of actual biology lesson. Honest Guv.

From what I remember from Biology (GCE so more or less contemporaneous with dinosaurs ) once life forms stopped being single celled they pretty much eventually evolved into m and f binary forms across the biological world, so plants, mammals, birds, fish, insects, amphibians all somehow developed the exact same criteria for ensuring their reproduction. It is apparently only in the last few years that human beings have evolved this incredible ability to change sex on demand without even having to go through the faff of making that huge change at an evolutionary pace.

I have 2 😁musings:

1. In population dynamics, if a population becomes too large then a catastrophic event happens to restore balance. Maybe gender ideology is natures way of buggering up breeding of future humans.
2. Hot flushes are designed to keep small children/grandchildren warm at night so we have an evolutionary use/ advantage

@Tinysoxxx very Darwinian which i quite like to muse about myself.