Cass review - out on Wednesday

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/06/children-socially-transition-face-grave-psychological-risks/

Major.

I’ve just listened to someone called Auden Kelly who’s business is in running a private gender clinic (if I understood correctly?)

I’m sure I just heard him say that children have not been rushed through the process of evaluating the appropriate help at GIDS.

Am I going mad?!?

Thus is the opposite to the whistleblowers and the Cass report and yet went unchallenged.

edited for spelling

Aiden Kelly

Tie DBS checks to NHS numbers and don't change NHS numbers on transition.

It doesn't have to be visible on the DBS form but it would solve potential name change issues.

Sky News just had Sue Evans on, she was fantastic.

The presenter said they will be having “the other side” of this discussion, at 2.15 when the head of Mermaids will be on. 👀

I wonder how PM will frame it? As far as I remember Evan Davies has managed to put a TRA filter on every beam of sunlight so far, so it'll be interesting to see how they handle this.

ED was on holiday in America the other day for the eclipse so fingers crossed he won't be back in the studio.

🤞

Starts off fairly ok and then we have ... Giz-a -job Kelly. https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/04/10/cass-report-25-medical-treatment/

Tie DBS checks to NHS numbers and don't change NHS numbers on transition.

It doesn't have to be visible on the DBS form but it would solve potential name change issues.

Yes, good idea.

I can't argue with the concluding sentence although I have to think that de Santos and I anticipate different outcomes. Or, I do, if said readers can doff their ideological blinkers and consider the evidence…

In a statement to PinkNews on the report, Stonewall’s director of campaigns and human rights, Robbie de Santos, said that while many of the recommendations could prove positive, he urged “due care” was need to avoid creating new barriers for trans people.
“Without due care, training or further capacity in the system, other [recommendations] could lead to new barriers that prevent children and young people from accessing the care they need and deserve,” he said.
“We urge NHS England and policymakers to read and digest the full report.”

I don’t understand the concern about the recommendation for a follow on service for 18-25 year olds.

Yes the NHS delays etc. are a problem but a natural
progression at 18 to a young adult service then at 25 to adult services makes a lot of sense.

I recall a parent of an anorexic child explaining at 18 they moved to adult services and literally had to start again at the back of the queue to access adult services.

Surely an integrated progression with handoffs is much more sensible.

I've read more of the report now, the whole thing is one epic FWR We Fucking TOLD YOU SO 🙌

Is it cynical of me to think that, in part, some of the lack of holistic support is common to other issues? Once diagnosed with autism or other neurodiversity, most young people are left to get on with it - with camhs attributing all and every difficulty to autism and therefore not treatable or within their remit. In the same way, complex young people who declare gender issues are sent off to wait elsewhere - relieving local services of the need to actually provide any care?
Perhaps if camhs actually provided care for all and assessed everyone holistically on first referral, much of these issues could be avoided.

Yep!

This reads to me that they don't understand what 'holistic' actually means

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I do feel that autism is now the go to with any child having a tricky time at school and home.

And whilst it's highly likely there can be a specific difficult, I also believe that the very nature of school today and also other pressures can lead to similar symptoms. I have a friend whose daughter is extremely distressed. We know why. Trauma and some other specific medical issues. And they're still suggesting autism. (Even my friend's daughter is refusing to be assessed; she has autistic friends and knows she's not.)

Has anyone seen any TRA takes yet? Apart from raging, have any of them tried to pull the report apart yet?

IW is frothing.
"UK media unbearable on Cass Report today"
"I need to leave the country"
"The report is based on lies"

So, no, nothing actually constructive because how can you pull apart something so reasonable?

Well. This is one way to 'get rid of waiting lists'

Role of Primary Care
19.9 Initial consultation should be with the GP, who should make an initial assessment as they would with any other adolescent. They will have a record of any relevant past medical history and of family context.
19.10 If they consider that the young person may need to be referred to a Regional hub, they should make a referral in the first instance to a secondary Centre service. If the young person reaches the referral threshold for CAMHS, they should be referred to that service, or otherwise they should referred to paediatrics. This should have an immediate effect on reducing the length of time children and young people are waiting to be seen by NHS services

Think we need just a tiny recognition that CAMHS is already broken, without adding on gender services, and paeds waiting lists (in this area at least) are very long. How is this going to work in practice?

I guess maybe the hope it that if puberty blockers/hormones are all but impossible to get and require diversion first through CAMHS/Paeds then demand will dry up a bit....

Helen Joyce's clip on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=yB0Au3cAB_jIt_QN&v=iSVEJjqm8vQ&feature=youtu.be

Looks like we have a cracker here. Hope receipts are being recorded.

Labour MP for Nottingham East comes out as one of the first MPs to admit to not having read the Cass Review. I hope other Labour MPs challenge her.

Just a reflection: thoughts and prayers are what pro-gun nut jobs give to victims of gun crime and refuse to engage in sensible conversations about gun control. This sounds remarkably similar.

Nadia Whittome MP AT NadiaWhittomeMP
As the Cass review is published, my thoughts are with the trans community.

Young trans people already face huge barriers to healthcare, including years-long waiting lists.

Their health and wellbeing should not be a front in a toxic culture war.

While some recommendations may positively impact the care young trans people receive, I know that others will cause significant concern.

I'm also aware of concerns raised about aspects of the review's methodology and therefore the basis upon which recommendations have been made.

In the coming days, I'll be speaking to experts, relevant organisations, and trans people themselves to better understand the report and its implications.

Its findings must not be spun by those ideologically opposed to trans healthcare.

I will continue to call for trans people's voices and wishes to be centred in changes that affect them, and to stand up for their right to access the healthcare they need, when they need it.

I’m sending love and solidarity to all trans people impacted by the news. Look after yourselves and each other, and reach out for support if you're struggling.

Helen Saxby AT helensaxby11
When 'ideologically opposed to trans healthcare' means 'believing all children, without exception, deserve evidence-based care'. I sometimes wonder whose side these people are on

Depressingly the TRAs are painting this as some kind of 'ooo they're saying under 25s are children, best not let them join the army then'. A view that's predictably being retweeted by the likes of Bragg & Jones. It's almost like Billy Boy & OJ haven't read the report

John James AT johnjamesNI
Mermaids CEO Lauren Stoner responds to #CassReview:

“We’re not medical experts, we don’t advocate for any [medical] pathway.”
(Tweet contains video clip from sky news)

Remember Susie Green and Mermaids made direct referrals to the Tavistock and pressured for medicalisation. All documented and in the public sphere.

Mermaids CANNOT be allowed to just walk away from that without accountability.

Whittome is thick as mince