Appropriate clothes for the workplace? Court no less.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13274499/Stephanie-Mueller-transgender-public-defender-seattle.html#newcomment

Excuse the fail link.

I'm genuinely wondering if a female lawyer dressed like this would she be allowed to carry on practising or would she be laughed out of the industry?

That would not be done, for many solid reasons.

The US has a different culture when it comes to self presentation - fashion choices, etc. - and acceptance of difference.

Kids don't wear uniforms to school, and the unequal treatment of female and male students when it comes to high school dress code infractions is gradually being challenged.

Also challenged in many places is the stigma attached to natural African hair and discrimination based on that stigma.

The personal appearance of this individual would be regarded with a shrug. While remarkable, lots of American lawyers have terrible fashion sense. I see many in action, and mentally give most of them a thorough makeover.

The courtroom is supposed to be a place with a modicum of decorum, but that doesn't necessarily include the covering of cleavage (or the straightening of African hair, etc).

You'd be surprised...

If that public defender came to see me dressed like that, I’d be defending myself in court.

My eyes! It's like watching a zeppelin race.

Twaddle. This is a sex clown, and everyone knows it.

I mean, fab, I hope he gets lots of coverage and airtime. It helps people see clearly all the issues that feminists are trying to explain, by offering a walking example in lurid technicolour.

I put these words into Google (other search engines available): dress code for lawyers in US courts

A quick flick through the many guides indicated 'business casual' at the most informal. There may well be substantial variations throughout the US but most of the YT streams from courts* indicate a dress code in line with the results that I saw.

ETA: *whatever subset that represents.

I'm starting to think that this is a really good schtick. They are a PD in Seattle which is noted for being 'right on'. By presenting as they do in court, they are challenging the jury to find the defendant guilty without being biased against the defendant's counsel.

Fucking clever.

All the way back to 2012? Says he transitioned in 2012 and started a gofundme on 2016.

Thats a long time.

I agree with you wrt this individual.

But my post was in response to a poster suggesting they would be asked to cover up.

That simply wouldn't happen, for reasons I've stated.

And clearly, that hasn't happened.

'Business casual' and 'business formal' are terms open to wide variations in interpretation. For women, a considerable amount of leeway is often given. The terms have a clearer meaning when it comes to men's attire.

Not all courts have the same expectations, and different occasions in any given court can merit different sartorial approaches. For a trial in any court, business formal is usually de rigeur. For an appearance, or general motion call, you can usually get away with your own interpretation of the code unless the judge got out of bed on the wrong side or you've pissed him or her off somehow.

The individual in the DM article would be pushing the limits of the normally accepted dress code in the low slung top, but 'excessive cleavage' is basically a judgement call. The leather trews would probably be acceptable in a lot of courtrooms, depending on whether urban or rural area, conservative or relatively liberal area, type of court, reason for appearing, and other variables.

Not all courts have the same expectations, and different occasions in any given court can merit different sartorial approaches.

In that case, how interesting that the YT courts that stream all seems to adopt similar expectations. I wonder if that's because the professionals are mindful that these do stream.

Perhaps its just me but 'excessive cleavage' eg a subjective judgement of exposure of someones natural form depending on shape/bust size/ cut of clothing
is totally different from deliberately chosing to wear a silicon prosthetic body part usually worn as fetishwear/for sexualised display?

@SamuelDJackson agreed. This is the equivalent of a transman wearing tight leather pants with a 15 inch prosthetic boner bulging out of the front.

He doesn't just have fake breasts, they look unnaturally huge, pert and sexually aroused.