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The Scottish Parliament has ended its membership of Stonewall's diversity programme,

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fromorbit · 27/03/2024 08:54

The Scottish Parliament has ended its membership of Stonewall's Diversity Champions programme, The Herald has learned.
A Holyrood spokesperson said membership expired in February 2024 and the LGBT+ organisation was informed earlier this month that it would not be renewed.

Holyrood quits Stonewall Diversity Champions programme
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24213211.holyrood-quits-stonewall-diversity-programme/

I don't have access to full text sorry.

Ooh dear looks like the Hatemonster has taken over. Does this mean all the MSPs will have to be reported for hatecrimes on April 1st? The SNP/SGreens presumably behind this does this mean the SNP and Scottish Greensare all guilty of hate crimes.

Remember it is illegal to disbelieve in nonbinary gender in Scotland from April 1st. How will MSPs know about this stuff without stonewall?

Scottish Parliament quits Stonewall Diversity Champions programme

The Scottish Parliament has ended its membership of Stonewall's diversity programme, The Herald has learned.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24213211.holyrood-quits-stonewall-diversity-programme?ref=rss

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SinnerBoy · 27/03/2024 08:55

Crikey! I wonder what has led to this outbreak of sanity?

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Abhannmor · 27/03/2024 08:58

I'm sure it won't be illegal to believe in myriad genders , any more than it is to believe in the Loch Ness Monster. A welcome return to sanity though.

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Bonbon21 · 27/03/2024 09:02

Probably can't afford the membership... maybe found a pothole to fill in The Royal Mile....

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Myalternate · 27/03/2024 09:04

Maybe they don’t think they need to pay Stonewall to provide advice and guidance when they can do so much better on their own. 😠 Plus, they have to save money somewhere.

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DrBlackbird · 27/03/2024 09:11

SinnerBoy · 27/03/2024 08:55

Crikey! I wonder what has led to this outbreak of sanity?

Alas, this is not sanity, surely this must be calculated strategy ahead of April Fool’s Day.

Once the legal challenges begin in counter protest, the mealy mouthed SMPs can point and say but look we’re not under the nefarious influence of anyone. It’s our own self determined laws helping to make the world kinder.

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ShoveandHoney · 27/03/2024 09:19

While it’s great that Stonewall isn’t profiting from the parliamentary coffers, they have absorbed the Stonewall wisdom and teachings into their very DNA. You don’t have to buy the badge to be part of the gang.

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Chersfrozenface · 27/03/2024 09:20

DrBlackbird · 27/03/2024 09:11

Alas, this is not sanity, surely this must be calculated strategy ahead of April Fool’s Day.

Once the legal challenges begin in counter protest, the mealy mouthed SMPs can point and say but look we’re not under the nefarious influence of anyone. It’s our own self determined laws helping to make the world kinder.

Perhaps they did follow the Alison Bailey case and have decided it's not worth paying Stonewall when Stonewall will just do its "we didn't advise them to do this totally stupid thing" shtick after the shit has hit the fan.

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fromorbit · 27/03/2024 09:24

Abhannmor · 27/03/2024 08:58

I'm sure it won't be illegal to believe in myriad genders , any more than it is to believe in the Loch Ness Monster. A welcome return to sanity though.

You can believe in Nessie or disbelieve. Nothing changing there. From April 1st it is a hate crime to disbelieve in non binary stuff. It already was it seems.

MSP Murdo Fraser likened identifying as non-binary to identifying "as a cat". He is a hate criminal according to the Police Scotland.

There is way more evidence for Nessie than there is for nonbinary stuff in my opinion. People have been seeing something in the loch for a long time. Non binary stuff started recently.

The act actually defines what trans stuff is. If you don't believe in this stuff and go to Scotland you are hatecriming.

7)A person is a member of a group defined by reference to transgender identity if the person is—

(a)a female-to-male transgender person,

(b)a male-to-female transgender person,

(c)a non-binary person,

(d)a person who cross-dresses,
and references to transgender identity are to be construed accordingly
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/part/4

"It also includes non-binary people as they are currently protected by the existing definition’s use of ‘any other gender identity that is not standard male or female gender identity’."

https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/factsheet/2023/11/hate-crime-public-order-scotland-act-2021-information-note/documents/hate-crime-public-order-scotland-act-2021-general-information-note/hate-crime-public-order-scotland-act-2021-general-information-note/govscot%3Adocument/hate-crime-public-order-scotland-act-2021-general-information-note.pdf

It also makes anyone who cross dresses trans. So most women in Scotland are trans now. Because a lot of women wear men's clothes all the time. Arguably if you don't wear makeup and you are a women you are crossdressing. Makeup seems to be the gender norm for women.

Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021

An Act of the Scottish Parliament to make provision about the aggravation of offences by prejudice; to make provision about an offence of racially aggravated harassment; to make provision about offences relating to stirring up hatred against a group of...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/part/4

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SinnerBoy · 27/03/2024 09:36

DrBlackbird · Today 09:11

Alas, this is not sanity, surely this must be calculated strategy ahead of April Fool’s Day.

When you put it like that, I can't disagree, sadly.

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WickedSerious · 27/03/2024 09:39

Myalternate · 27/03/2024 09:04

Maybe they don’t think they need to pay Stonewall to provide advice and guidance when they can do so much better on their own. 😠 Plus, they have to save money somewhere.

Yes,they're perfectly capable of pulling their own batshit laws out of their arses,no need to pay someone to do it for them.

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PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/03/2024 09:45

My cat identifies as a non binary non feline human diversity champion. They/them work for Scottish government. On returning home they/them sit expectantly in front of the fridge willing the honey roast ham to be brought out with some chicken and prosciutto. I will be jailed for commiting hate crimes against them from next week.

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RandySavage · 27/03/2024 10:28

https://archive.ph/EA8uo

full text doesn't add much

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Toseland · 27/03/2024 10:35

There are probably many other TQ+ groups advising instead (getting their orders from Stonewall)

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Emotionalsupportviper · 27/03/2024 10:44

DrBlackbird · 27/03/2024 09:11

Alas, this is not sanity, surely this must be calculated strategy ahead of April Fool’s Day.

Once the legal challenges begin in counter protest, the mealy mouthed SMPs can point and say but look we’re not under the nefarious influence of anyone. It’s our own self determined laws helping to make the world kinder.

You're probably right.

Tha bastards.

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battymaggot · 27/03/2024 14:37

The idiots in the Parish Council don't need
Stonewall. Its job is done and the damage is done.
The April Fool law will stand alongside the ferry fiasco in testimony of the mess that giving too much power to a bunch of zealots who lack the intellect, experience and honesty to handle it.

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HeartofSaturdayNight · 27/03/2024 19:09

The flip side might be that they've finally caught themselves on and realise the ridiculous pressure they're about to put the police under if they have to treat every complaint from the genderwang brigade as genuine hate from a reasonable person...

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