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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Darts again

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Gymnopedie · 25/03/2024 15:09

Look who just won a major women's darts match (again) -

Outrage as Dutch transgender darts player Noa-Lynn van Leuven wins PDC Women's Series event in Wigan - prompting two of her female team mates to resign and tennis ace Martina Navratilova to say women have 'short end of the stick' (MSN link)

But that's alright because The last two years before I transitioned were terrible for me, I was depressed, I wasn't having fun in life ... Now I am happy again and I have so much to live for.

Translation: Happy because I'm beating women who've given so much for their darts, some of whom have now given up because of me.

Oh good, I'm so pleased for you Noa. Or not.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/tennis/outrage-as-dutch-transgender-darts-player-noa-lynn-van-leuven-wins-pdc-women-s-series-event-in-wigan-prompting-two-of-her-female-team-mates-to-resign-and-tennis-ace-martina-navratilova-to-say-women-have-short-end-of-the-stick/ar-BB1ksQLQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=bd5375750da14772a52dbfc9904b1d14&ei=30

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Rightsraptor · 25/03/2024 16:45

Clearly, Noa-Lynn's happiness is all that should matter. Anything else is a mere distraction.

UltraLiteLife · 25/03/2024 16:59

Katie Sheldon is the real, unacknowledged, winner.

I'm impressed by this:

Meanwhile, two of Van Leuven's Dutch compatriots have left their national team in protest following Saturday's win.
Anca Zijlstra revealed she was stepping away 'with pain in my heart' - before world number two Aileen de Graaf quit hours later in vowing to no longer represent the Netherlands.
Zijlstra, 50, wrote on Facebook: 'That moment when you're embarrassed to come out for the Dutch team, because a biological man is playing on the women's team, it's time to go.
'I have tried to accept this but I can't approve or validate this.
'I think that in sports there should be an equal and fair playing field. I hope with all my heart and for all women in sports that people come to their senses.'
De Graaf, 33, said: 'If someone doesn't feel good in the body they were born in, I encourage everyone to change that and be happy. I just don't think it's right for a biological man to throw for the women or vice-versa. It's either mixed or not.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13234329/Outrage-Dutch-transgender-darts-player-Noa-Lynn-van-Leuven-wins-PDC-Womens-Series-event-Wigan-prompting-two-female-team-mates-resign-tennis-ace-Martina-Navratilova-say-women-short-end-stick.html

TrainedByCatsToBeScathing · 25/03/2024 17:04

Well done Anca and Aileen

SamW98 · 25/03/2024 17:38

Well done those two brave ladies standing up for what’s right 👏👏

And as we all know, the hurty feelz of one mediocre bloke trumps the years of hard work for every woman in the Dutch darts world.

Im glad the DM for all its faults shines a light on this shit.

WaterWeasel · 25/03/2024 17:42

What a prick.

Seainasive · 25/03/2024 18:47

Noa-Lynn won 2 competitions this week. One as a man, and one as a woman. Make of that what you will.

KingNidge · 25/03/2024 18:51

Seainasive · 25/03/2024 18:47

Noa-Lynn won 2 competitions this week. One as a man, and one as a woman. Make of that what you will.

No they didn't, they won a challenge tour which is open to all and a women's series event. They are perfectly entitled to play in the challenge tour as it's open to both sexes. They shouldn't be anywhere near the Women's series.

Seainasive · 25/03/2024 18:57

I stand corrected!

Toseland · 25/03/2024 20:12

I'd love for a journalist to ask him some questions such as "What's it like to run a busy home and with so many caring responsibilities - how does that impact your practice?"

CaterhamReconstituted · 25/03/2024 20:15

An absolute disgrace. The only good thing I can find to say is that at least it’s not a violent sport like boxing where we now have to applaud men beating up women in the name of equality.

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2024 20:44

For such a small percentage of the world population it feels like transwomen win an impressive number of sporting titles.

Someone should do a study as to why that is!

(I feel the answer should be fairly easy to determine!)

frazzled1 · 25/03/2024 20:57

Professional Darts Corporation twitter (comments seem to be turned off strangely enough.......):

https://twitter.com/OfficialPDC/status/1771617993891500528
VICTORY FOR VAN LEUVEN!

Noa-Lynn van Leuven clinches her maiden PDC Women's Series title in Wigan!

Van Leuven overcomes some late double trouble to defeat Irish youngster Katie Sheldon in the Event Two final!

Worth a look at the video clip, pretty obvious which darts player is a bio male.

Congratulations Katie Sheldon, so sorry you were cheated Angry.

https://twitter.com/OfficialPDC/status/1771617993891500528

RethinkingLife · 25/03/2024 21:00

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2024 20:44

For such a small percentage of the world population it feels like transwomen win an impressive number of sporting titles.

Someone should do a study as to why that is!

(I feel the answer should be fairly easy to determine!)

I'm up for it. I have a feeling that the research costs won't be very high.

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2024 21:15

frazzled1 · 25/03/2024 20:57

Professional Darts Corporation twitter (comments seem to be turned off strangely enough.......):

https://twitter.com/OfficialPDC/status/1771617993891500528
VICTORY FOR VAN LEUVEN!

Noa-Lynn van Leuven clinches her maiden PDC Women's Series title in Wigan!

Van Leuven overcomes some late double trouble to defeat Irish youngster Katie Sheldon in the Event Two final!

Worth a look at the video clip, pretty obvious which darts player is a bio male.

Congratulations Katie Sheldon, so sorry you were cheated Angry.

Look At those figures! Nearly sixteen and a half million views and less than two and half thousands likes!

Darts again
mum2jakie · 26/03/2024 17:15

Well done Katie Sheldon 👏

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