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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

All I can think is that they don't want anybody to talk about them

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JellySaurus · 14/03/2024 22:54

How do you even use these pronouns to refer to this person?

All I can think is that they don't want anybody to talk about them
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RandomMess · 14/03/2024 22:56

Reads to me that they are gender critical and forced to display pronouns so is making a point by having them all there!

Heylo · 14/03/2024 22:57

With people who have multiple pronouns - I am embarrassed for them. They clearly want attention/ want people discussing them. There was a guy in our (female) book club with a floating identity. One day he was his actual male self and occasionally (and this is what permitted him entry) he identified as ‘she/ her’. It’s exhausting having to put up with this crap.

HarrietSchulenberg · 14/03/2024 22:57

Unfortunate name. It would be very hard to determine which pronoun to use - maybe he/they/she isn't actually that bothered or is playing a little game.

Hoardasurass · 14/03/2024 22:58

😁

Mumoftwo1312 · 14/03/2024 22:58

Easy, both he and she are available, so observe their sex and use sex-based pronouns. You're choosing one of the available options, job done

JellySaurus · 14/03/2024 23:02

RandomMess · 14/03/2024 22:56

Reads to me that they are gender critical and forced to display pronouns so is making a point by having them all there!

Good point.

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MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 14/03/2024 23:08

Mumoftwo1312 · 14/03/2024 22:58

Easy, both he and she are available, so observe their sex and use sex-based pronouns. You're choosing one of the available options, job done

I never quite know if people's stated 'pronouns' are dependent on the grammatical case/context or if you're just supposed to pick one of the given 'available' ones as you so wish.

So when somebody states 'she/her', I always assume you would use "she has said that..." but "I'm meeting her tomorrow" - but have I misunderstood the new pronoun 'rules'? Could the she and the her have been freely swapped over in the above two phrases?

Thus, when somebody's stated 'pronouns' consist solely of multiple subject pronouns, how do you know which to use when? If somebody identifies as a 'they/she', can you say "they asked me to tell she the time"; or indeed vice versa?

I do agree, though, that this particular person's pronouns are not going to be the first things that people notice, under a name like that!

JellySaurus · 14/03/2024 23:15

It's not her name 😄. That's their character's name. I've redacted his actual name.

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Karensalright · 14/03/2024 23:15

How about hey fuck wit, couldn’t give a shite about your gender ID. Can you get on with my scan please.

ronswansonstache · 14/03/2024 23:16

My work promotes pronoun badges that we can wear on our lanyards. One of my colleagues wears all three simultaneously and I assume that's a piss take!

Mumoftwo1312 · 14/03/2024 23:21

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 14/03/2024 23:08

I never quite know if people's stated 'pronouns' are dependent on the grammatical case/context or if you're just supposed to pick one of the given 'available' ones as you so wish.

So when somebody states 'she/her', I always assume you would use "she has said that..." but "I'm meeting her tomorrow" - but have I misunderstood the new pronoun 'rules'? Could the she and the her have been freely swapped over in the above two phrases?

Thus, when somebody's stated 'pronouns' consist solely of multiple subject pronouns, how do you know which to use when? If somebody identifies as a 'they/she', can you say "they asked me to tell she the time"; or indeed vice versa?

I do agree, though, that this particular person's pronouns are not going to be the first things that people notice, under a name like that!

but have I misunderstood the new pronoun 'rules'

I really don't know - I have a feeling the rules vary and so I don't bother.

A couple of my (female) teacher colleagues are "she-they"s. (It's ever such a "progressive" school, flies a big progress flag above the assembly hall.) Nobody, including colleagues and students, have ever used anything other than sex based pronouns for them in my hearing.

I think they (plural women) are hoping that their sex is ambiguous based on their presentation and so people might fall back on "they" but it couldn't be more obvious that they're female.

Mumoftwo1312 · 14/03/2024 23:21

JellySaurus · 14/03/2024 23:15

It's not her name 😄. That's their character's name. I've redacted his actual name.

Are you rotating through the pronouns? The mind boggles

NoBinturongsHereMate · 15/03/2024 00:36

We have someone at work who used to be a he/them, and expected people to use both in the course of any given conversation.

PaterPower · 15/03/2024 02:07

Ah, so this is a cast list for a stage play? So this individual plays two parts - a radiologist and a character called Margaret Thatcher-Haze?

Confused me at first reading as I thought it was from a hospital list and that ‘Margaret’ was a Radiologist there 🤪

pinkgown · 15/03/2024 02:17

What's wrong with the pronoun "it"? Is no-one ever neutral?

Belichtofalicht · 15/03/2024 02:24

I think she/they means they’re a demi-girl.

I know someone who’s a pan-demi-enby. That is, a pansexual non-binary demi-girl. So I’m up on this stuff. 🤣

IanCurtisdancing · 15/03/2024 04:48

reported.

AlisonDonut · 15/03/2024 04:52

Mumoftwo1312 · 14/03/2024 23:21

Are you rotating through the pronouns? The mind boggles

I've seen that some people do expect exactly that.

user746016 · 15/03/2024 05:00

Unfortunately if this is in a theatre context it’s probably not someone taking a GC stance. It’s rife in theatre land (DH is a theatre director).

cerisepanther73 · 15/03/2024 05:35

"It , they us furries weirdos" individuals who think they are special
Specialists individuals"

"Naval gazers"

" Arrested developers"

Fuck knows what to call people who self identify

SidewaysOtter · 15/03/2024 05:49

IanCurtisdancing · 15/03/2024 04:48

reported.

For what? Are the wims not being kind again? Hmm

SidewaysOtter · 15/03/2024 05:53

I know someone (a female) who uses he/they pronouns. I presume that means that the context kicks in, as Maybe says.

But I cannot be arsed to work it out. If I need to get someone to give her a box, do I say “Can you give this to him, they’re over there”? Or is it “Can you give this to them, he’s over there”?

It’s demanding people a) disbelieve their eyes and b) spend an unreasonable amount of cognitive effort to bend to their will.

Thankfully she knows I’m gender-critical and so doesn’t speak to me at all any more. Problem solved Grin

sashh · 15/03/2024 06:58

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 14/03/2024 23:08

I never quite know if people's stated 'pronouns' are dependent on the grammatical case/context or if you're just supposed to pick one of the given 'available' ones as you so wish.

So when somebody states 'she/her', I always assume you would use "she has said that..." but "I'm meeting her tomorrow" - but have I misunderstood the new pronoun 'rules'? Could the she and the her have been freely swapped over in the above two phrases?

Thus, when somebody's stated 'pronouns' consist solely of multiple subject pronouns, how do you know which to use when? If somebody identifies as a 'they/she', can you say "they asked me to tell she the time"; or indeed vice versa?

I do agree, though, that this particular person's pronouns are not going to be the first things that people notice, under a name like that!

It's sweet of you to think there are actual rules. Or that people are consistent. They want the attention of being asked. And the drama of someone getting it wrong because for 30 seconds they were identifying as 'she' and you used, 'they'.

WickedSerious · 15/03/2024 07:26

IanCurtisdancing · 15/03/2024 04:48

reported.

Go back to bed.

IanCurtisdancing · 15/03/2024 07:39

SidewaysOtter · 15/03/2024 05:49

For what? Are the wims not being kind again? Hmm

Trust me, one ever refers to women as “the wims”.