All I can think is that they don't want anybody to talk about them

[JellySaurus]

How do you even use these pronouns to refer to this person?

One of the performers has "any pronouns". But I agree - in the current climate, does this mean "don't be daft, speak s as you will", "or I'm so fluidly boy and girl and all pronouns are good for me"?

I can refer to myself as however I please, thank you very fucking much. If you'd been around here for a while - rather than just plopping in to give us your tedious and irrelevant opinion - you’d know its context.

And if you’re not respecting how I identify then you’re not being very kind or inclusive, are you now?

Ha! The irony.

That being?

Not being goady, genuinely interested in the response- what is actually wrong with displaying pronouns?
To me it feels abit silly & unnecessary but cant find better words than that to explain!

As far as I’m concerned, they play into reductive and harmful gender stereotypes, they control people’s language (demanding that we disbelieve our eyes/ears/natural instincts to refer to a biological male as “she”) and they are part of a wider gender ideology that is to the detriment of women’s rights and safeties.

This made me laugh, v good 😂

Some people do like it I’ve seen

i think its not used because ‘it’ has been used to talk about inanimate objects and animals

it would make more sense when used grammatically than they but as its seen as an ‘insult’ its not going to happen

https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

being compelled to use she/her fir a man is forcing you to lie

In theatre-land it will be "look at me I'm so Special". Genuinely. Sometimes it's "some days I'm in girl mode, some days I'm in boy mode some days I'm non-binary and you won't always know until you get it wrong," aka "look at me I'm so Special."

Despite being apparently okay with any, they will also label you as a bigot, either out loud or just internally, if you only use one. Which leads me to:

We have someone at work who used to be a he/them, and expected people to use both in the course of any given conversation

It's exhausting to have to cycle through them in one conversation - but a lot of people who declare multiple pronouns will expect it.

I think you have missed the point completely

i think youve picked up on otters comment that she can refer to herself however she wants and you reckon you can use it as a gotcha….you can’t

plus saying no one says wims directly after someone says wims is fucking stupid

I use the term wims all the time. Also maaate.

But that's by and by.

I find the pronoun kids a bit eye rolly but I see it as little more than a youth fashion. I suspect none of them habe thought about it deeply. Meanwhile, actual grown adults doing it just come across as ridiculous and embarrassing. But quite handy in a "who to avoid" kind of way.

They signify an environment in which being gender critical won't be tolerated, which means you can expect to center men even more than usual, including in female loos and changing rooms.

It's intention is to make trans and non-binary identifying people feel welcome. In reality it's not really liked by lots of trans identifying people because they'd like to think they pass and therefore people don't need help to know which pronouns they would prefer.

It is coerced speech. I have no more right to demand that you ignore the evidence of your eyes and nose and refer to me as something I am not, than I have to demand that you ignore the evidence and refer to me as Her Gracious Majesty.

Dishonesty breaches safeguarding. Read this fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

I've seen this be requested, so that for each instance of pronoun use one progresses through the list of pronouns. For example, referring to one single individual: "I said to him that they ought to go to the shops to get the wine and once she was done with that he should take it to the party, where we can meet them".

Thanks for the info & explaining to me.
Whats the view on women/ men (not trans) using these pronouns? I mean, when no need- they are obv the gender they are?

Is this actor playing the system by using all of them so they can get any of the better parts. Think we already know someone like that, don't we 🤔

They do it to signify that they are Safe Space for trans identifying people (you may have cross posted with my last post :) )

Or they’ve been forced into it at work

You’ve used her and his 😵‍💫

I say what I see. I won’t deny my reality to appease someone that is confused about their own.

Thankyou for taking the time to come back to me.

What I’d like to know is how do you find out if a colleague starts putting their sex based pronouns on emails, (as in, a man puts he/him or a woman puts she/her) whether they are doing it because they think it makes them look a bit edgy, or they are just #beingkiiiind or because they truly believe?

I feel that just saying ‘you’re making yourself look a bit of a twat there, mate’ is a bit harsh.

There is nothing 'safe' about playing along with a delusion.

Maybe it’s because they can “refer to myself as however I please, thank you very fucking much.”

What are you getting out of commenting on this thread, Ian?