Sonia Sodha and Jo Phoenix in conversation

[RethinkingLife]

The recording is available:

Everyone who works in Higher Education needs to understand the Phoenix judgement. The employment tribunal has found that Professor Phoenix was discriminated against, harassed, and wrongfully constructively dismissed by the Open University because of her gender-critical beliefs. Phoenix believes that sex is a meaningful human category and that sex matters. As a criminologist, she has discussed the importance of sex for crime and prison policy. She set up the Open University Gender Critical Research Network to provide a forum for academic discussion and research on issues of sex and gender. In conversation with Sonia Sodha, Professor Phoenix will discuss her experiences, and how we can learn from her case and the verdict.

https://mediacentral.ucl.ac.uk/Play/108521

Alice Sullivan introduces the event. Despite the ubiquity of podcasts, it was refreshing and unusual to have a freeflowing conversation like this that doesn't involve considerations of YouTube algorithms or clickbait titles.

Just a calm, considered, thoughtful conversation followed by helpful questions from the audience.