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Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2024 19:04

Right I'm going to watch Andrew Doyle, I've also got it on record, in case I get the urge to throw something at the screen

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2024 19:10

I am not going to cope with 2 hours in one sitting.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 19:35

I'm recording it but have just listened to a horrifying video from a transwoman Dr Christine Mimnagh talking about how to enable the menopause in a 9 year old girl (also spouting nonsense about 9 being the average age for the menarche in girls). So shocking.

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/03/2024 21:12

Redshoeblueshoe · 10/03/2024 19:10

I am not going to cope with 2 hours in one sitting.

I was going to suggest that you pace yourself.

You are only flesh and blood.

Emotionalsupportviper · 10/03/2024 21:13

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 19:35

I'm recording it but have just listened to a horrifying video from a transwoman Dr Christine Mimnagh talking about how to enable the menopause in a 9 year old girl (also spouting nonsense about 9 being the average age for the menarche in girls). So shocking.

What the actual FUCK! 😧😡

That's appalling!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 21:19

It is. They're a "member" of WPATH and apparently a leading "expert" in gender affirmation medicine.

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2024 21:26

'I hold post as the clinical lead for the Cheshire and Merseyside NHS service, I am a member of the NHS England clinical reference group for gender identity healthcare, a member of World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) , a full member of the British Association of Gender Identity Specialists (BAGIS) and a member of the Transgender Professional Association for Transgender Health (TPATH).

https://gendercare.co.uk/christine-mimnagh.shtml

Claimed the average age for the onset of periods is 'now 9'. Clearly has no fucking clue.

Gender Care: UK specialists in gender therapy

https://gendercare.co.uk/christine-mimnagh.shtml

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 21:32

Pontificating about menopause in a 9 year old girl while demonstrating complete ignorance about puberty in girls. No wonder the Dorset Health Trust didn't want that clip used.
Fucking dangerous

RethinkingLife · 10/03/2024 21:40

Mimnagh and Harrop must be quite the lively pair. (Wasn't Harrop at cMAGIC pre-suspension although I didn't track when/if he returned.)

https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/news/doctor-can-transgender-day-visibility

RethinkingLife · 10/03/2024 21:44

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 19:35

I'm recording it but have just listened to a horrifying video from a transwoman Dr Christine Mimnagh talking about how to enable the menopause in a 9 year old girl (also spouting nonsense about 9 being the average age for the menarche in girls). So shocking.

Transman, it seems.

I've not seen the piece to which you refer but it makes being blithe about inducing menopause in a child seem that much worse. NB: I've no idea when Mimnagh transitioned but assume it was as an adult.

WPATH leaks
VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 10/03/2024 21:53

So the tweet claiming to be of the female sex is a flat lie then...

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2024 22:05

Charitably, we could say this person is confused.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 10/03/2024 22:15

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2024 22:05

Charitably, we could say this person is confused.

If a GP is confused about sex, they shouldn't be practicing. Arguably, if they lie about it, they shouldn't be practicing either.

SoupDragonsFriend · 10/03/2024 22:17

Very confused. Very worrying. Mrs O, is there a link to the horrifying video?

RethinkingLife · 10/03/2024 22:17

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2024 22:05

Charitably, we could say this person is confused.

I'm opting for the scenario where the confusion is purposeful. Claiming transman, transgender woman. Flipping the usual meanings of sex and gender.

Is it any wonder the general public is confused?

https://issuu.com/juliecrompton/docs/may_21_interactive/s/12406948

WPATH leaks
DrBlackbird · 10/03/2024 22:25

SoupDragonsFriend · 10/03/2024 22:17

Very confused. Very worrying. Mrs O, is there a link to the horrifying video?

Likely a deliberately confusing narrative. As a patient you wouldn’t know what to think, would you. Taking the level of deceptiveness to a whole new level.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/03/2024 22:36

SoupDragonsFriend · 10/03/2024 22:17

Very confused. Very worrying. Mrs O, is there a link to the horrifying video?

It was on Andrew Doyle's Free Speech Nation expose of WPATH on GB News tonight. Apparently it was leaked to him and the Dorset ? Health Trust told them they couldn't air it. Thank heavens AD ignored them as everyone needs to see what these dangerous people are saying about and doing to young children

SoupDragonsFriend · 11/03/2024 00:26

RainWithSunnySpells · 10/03/2024 17:43

Sorry if I missed this being posted before, I hadn't spotted it.

I’ve just listed to the recording – there’s a lot of contextual background about ideologies which was very interesting. Thanks for posting.

One thing that I hadn't heard spoken about before was Michael Shellenberger saying that he didn’t view his work on the WPATH files as a scoop, but rather as an opportunity for everyone who got it wrong to get it right. In relation to this, they went to all of the major news media in North American in advance of publication of the files and offered to ‘walk them through it’ in in-person meetings.

He then said that the reason they’d come to London before publication was to have similar meetings with all of the major news media here, specifically naming the The Times, The Telegraph and a reporter from the BBC which makes the lack of reporting in much of the mainstream media here even worse. They had obviously been handed the story on a plate. The comments are at about 1:24:00.

Helleofabore · 11/03/2024 12:07

I have been thinking about the dismissal of the report that 'any random person can post on the forum' and I cannot work out how those using this dismissal think that this is a good point to raise.

Are they then saying that anyone can join and then post falsities or gross misrepresentations or horrific distortions which then influence the clinicians on that forum? As in, they will post made up case studies and named clinicians comment on it without knowing who it is they are commenting to?

How would those known and identifiable clinicians then changes their posts if they thought that that case posted was fake?

And none of the known clinicians have stated that the leaked screengrabs were faked in any way. The only complaint was that the screengrabs were 'out of context'. Which on reading the grabs, is an irrelevant complaint. Because what context would improve what has been posted?

So, either this is a meaningless complaint mean to appeal to someone who has not read the report. Or there is a major issue around what the fuck clinicians are posting in response to a known security issue of false posters that WPATH know about and have not dealt with to protect the clinicians from?

Which is it?

And why do posters, such as dadjoke, believe the outcome of those 'random WPATH users' is in any way a good thing to declare?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/03/2024 12:22

Transman, it seems.

If you watch the video you'll see there can be no doubt what sex this person is. MTF not FTM.

Helleofabore · 11/03/2024 12:34

Two male people then? Discussing a 9 year old girl and her future? And categorising 9 years old as typical for starting periods so ‘nothing to see here’ regarding starting a 9 year old on irreversible hormones.

Fuck. It is grim.

Do those people honestly think that they understand what being a female child is at all?

duc748 · 11/03/2024 12:34

It's almost as if, the more confusion there is about 'transwoman', 'trans woman', 'transman', etc, the more it suits them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/03/2024 12:35

Got it in one @duc748