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Gender row rocks Alex Salmond’s Alba as founding member quits

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IwantToRetire · 04/03/2024 17:50

Alex Salmond’s Alba party has been rocked by the resignation of a prominent founder member in a row over gender recognition and women’s rights.

Major divisions have opened up within the nationalist and pro-independence party that was founded three years ago by the former first minister.

The resignation of Alba’s equalities convener, Eva Comrie, provoked an angry reponse from party members.

Denise Findlay, the party’s former organisation convener, accused members of “nasty smears that have lost the party hard-working office bearers and many more activists and members”.

Comrie said that while she remained committed to independence and retained faith in Salmond, she had resigned over “fundamental disagreements” in the way Yvonne Ridley, the party’s women’s convener, had articulated its policy on women’s rights and gender reform.

Ridley incurred the wrath of Alba women activists with a tweet which stated: “A trans woman is a woman assigned male at birth. Trans women have a female gender identity and may experience gender dysphoria.”

Ridley later apologised for the statement — which is at odds with Alba policy — and claimed it was the product of a “senior moment”.

The full article is much longer https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gender-row-rocks-alex-salmonds-alba-as-founding-member-quits-zrrvv6sl7

Can also be read at https://archive.ph/lIJcV

(Off topic or maybe not, I had no idea Yvonne Ridley was still active in politics. I remember there was a time that she would be constantly re-emerging with varying identities and political allegiances. )

Gender row rocks Alex Salmond’s Alba as founding member quits

Major divisions have opened up within the nationalist party after Eva Comrie resigns over comments made by Yvonne Ridley about trans women

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gender-row-rocks-alex-salmonds-alba-as-founding-member-quits-zrrvv6sl7

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mirax · 04/03/2024 19:14

Sounds like Ridley, a despicable character, has done her job - creating division and dissent.

SirChenjins · 04/03/2024 19:27

I’m not following - why did Eva Comrie resign while Ridley, whose views on trans identifying males which contradict that of Alba’s, remains in post? I can’t read the whole article as it’s behind a paywall.

IwantToRetire · 04/03/2024 19:32

it’s behind a paywall

Did you read the OP? If so you will have seen that a link was provided to an archive copy of the article, as has now become the custom!!!!

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Emotionalsupportviper · 04/03/2024 19:39

Anybody having "senior moments" like that shouldn't be anywhere near policy making decisions.

Rightsraptor · 04/03/2024 19:48

Oh! She's that Yvonne Ridley. She seems to change with the wind.

I scent another political party about to self-combust.

christmascactus22 · 04/03/2024 20:01

Another party I can't vote for.

SirChenjins · 04/03/2024 20:05

IwantToRetire · 04/03/2024 19:32

it’s behind a paywall

Did you read the OP? If so you will have seen that a link was provided to an archive copy of the article, as has now become the custom!!!!

Edited

Apologies, missed the archive link.

So has Alba’s stance on gender ideology changed?

redfacebigdisgrace · 04/03/2024 20:08

“Senior moment”…. cringe…

IwantToRetire · 04/03/2024 20:08

She's that Yvonne Ridley.

I just assumed so!

Why of all people, women even, would Alba make someone with her background Women's Convener?

I know there are a small party, but there must have been better choices. Let alone if you know you have "senior moments" you make sure you have notes to hand.

Of all issues to not get right, confusing Alba's policy re women's sex based rights, seems a big failure.

Surely, even if it was a mistake she should at least have offered to resign in terms of Alba's credibility.

What a shame. Is there no bit of paryt politics that actually works?

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Morwenscapacioussleeves · 04/03/2024 20:14

That must have been a "she goes or I do" moment surely? But that would mean someone said no we want Ridley 👀

IwantToRetire · 05/03/2024 01:04

Second Alba member resigns in gender row after trans women tweet
Denise Findlay followed Eva Comrie in quitting after disagreeing with the party’s women’s convener
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alba-party-msp-resigns-gender-row-eva-comrie-denise-findlay-vnsj5hg9v
Also https://archive.ph/Bgvve

Article makes it sound that this is just the tipping point for some women who have lost faith in Alba.

Second Alba member resigns in gender row after trans women tweet

Denise Findlay followed Eva Comrie in quitting after disagreeing with the party’s women’s convener

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alba-party-msp-resigns-gender-row-eva-comrie-denise-findlay-vnsj5hg9v

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 05/03/2024 02:12

I don’t know what has been going on, there’s been people leaving since the elections. Men as well as women

mirax · 05/03/2024 04:53

A party that has Ridley as its Women's Convenor is a party in need of a serious bollocking. She has poisonous ideas about women's place in society.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/03/2024 15:35

redfacebigdisgrace · 04/03/2024 20:08

“Senior moment”…. cringe…

I know - I have senior moments.

Usually it's something like forgetting to check the eggs so they are hard-boiled instead of soft, or putting the teapot in the fridge after emptying it.

I have never, even in my most "away-with-the-pixies" moments looked at someone with a cock and balls and thought "My - she's a bonnie lass."

IwantToRetire · 05/03/2024 17:05

I think rather than "senior moment" (being a convenient excuse) she respond instinctively and revealed that she is as committed to women being biological females as she is to every other political strand she has become part of before moving on elsewhere.

But ... whatever she as an individual had done it make Alba look complete fools.

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