Will Labour introduce Self ID & curb free speech?

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I’ve never voted Tory, but as a lesbian woman who plans to have children (and obviously as a woman!) I am and will be part of the three groups most affected by Gender Ideology; women, lesbian and soon I hope a Mother. I am really worried about what happens when Labour takes power. The Tories have been rubbish no arguments there but at least they are finally moving against the steam rolling of Gender Ideology. I’m thinking Labour are not that fiscally different to the Tories and have said they will not cap bankers bonuses and they don’t intend to increase public spending in a significant way.

Really concerned about more gender identity clinics popping up under Labour and Keir Starmer possibly curbing free speech via so - called hate laws (in the feminist circle i run in we all agree this is a euphemism for silencing women about men in female prisons, rape shelters and other areas where women are vulnerable).

wonder what everyone else thinking?

That's quite an significant clarification.

Thanks to women speaking up on this thread and others

Despite claims we have it wrong or it doesn’t matter, politicians are slowly realising it does. Labour will be lobbied by males pushing for their version, they already are.

Keep going

As things stand a Labour government will just be a Tory government that demolishes women's and parental rights, and freedom of speech - freedom of thought too if they could.

I don't want either option but given the choice then where my vote is going is obvious.

If Labour make some clear commitments to maintain women's rights and freedom of speech I'll vote for them - any Labour focus people reading this take note.

I don't think they any better than the Tories but given the right circumstances I think they should at least be given a go.

PS think both Sunak and Starmer are just awful.

That's quite an significant clarification.

I came back to this thread, saw this comment from duc748 and thought (with a little hopeful leap of the heart) that maybe Labour/Starmer had clarified that they don't count men as women under any circumstances.

I should have known better.

Hurrydash · Yesterday 19:26

As things stand a Labour government will just be a Tory government that demolishes women's and parental rights, and freedom of speech - freedom of thought too if they could.

I wonder if books will be affected. Children’s literature such as Roald Dahl and Enid Blyton has already been censored or ‘brought up to date’. What next? Will adult fiction (and non-fiction) go the same way?