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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

George Galloway

125 replies

domineastronomy · 28/02/2024 14:29

Looks likely to win the Rochdale by-election.
Does anyone know his position on gender ideology?

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TathingScinsel · 29/02/2024 22:55

Crikey. How will the identitarian left cope with their new crypto fascist status?

I mean, they call us Prosecco Stormfront but we’re not the ones on the same team as Nick bloody Griffin (sort of surprised he’s still alive, he’s always looked one pie away from a furred artery).

BackToLurk · 29/02/2024 23:07

TathingScinsel · 29/02/2024 22:55

Crikey. How will the identitarian left cope with their new crypto fascist status?

I mean, they call us Prosecco Stormfront but we’re not the ones on the same team as Nick bloody Griffin (sort of surprised he’s still alive, he’s always looked one pie away from a furred artery).

Nick Griffin praised Corbyn, but I think guilt by association only works when it involves women.

TheLeadbetterLife · 29/02/2024 23:16

I doubt George Galloway knows the first fucking thing about gender ideology. Loads of these cunts pay lip service to GC because they know it plays well, but they don't give two shits about women.

Dontblameitonsunshine · 01/03/2024 00:34

George Galloway does know about gender ideology and called it out years ago. This board has gone to pieces, it’s full of loudmouths and sycophants

SecretBanta · 01/03/2024 00:49

Watch George Galloway at the Senate then come back here to dismiss him.
He's fearless, independent and authentic.

Rainbowshit · 01/03/2024 01:22

He won. 🙈

TathingScinsel · 01/03/2024 02:30

But they haven’t announced it yet because he’s not actually in the building?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-68402672

What a weird situation!

George Galloway
Slothtoes · 01/03/2024 04:31

He’s confirmed as won it. Noo! I thought he’d not come back in to Parliamentary politics.

LunaNorth · 01/03/2024 04:40

He appears to have turned into Elvis Costello.

(If Elvis Costello was a cunt and you bought him from Shein).

Slothtoes · 01/03/2024 04:51

Also not a single woman to vote for on that list of candidates in Rochdale. How depressing.
Glad there will be a general election soon and hope that the result changes then with better candidates to choose from than showman Galloway as their MP.

PermanentTemporary · 01/03/2024 06:32

Who knew that this parliament could actually get worse.

GoodOldEmmaNess · 01/03/2024 06:40

So angry with the Labour Party for the clusterfuck of absolute woefulness that handed the election to this creep.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 01/03/2024 06:49

SecretBanta · 01/03/2024 00:49

Watch George Galloway at the Senate then come back here to dismiss him.
He's fearless, independent and authentic.

He’s a demagogic arsehole.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 01/03/2024 06:51

Dontblameitonsunshine · 01/03/2024 00:34

George Galloway does know about gender ideology and called it out years ago. This board has gone to pieces, it’s full of loudmouths and sycophants

If giving a fuck about forced marriage and rape means this board has gone to pieces, then it's to be welcomed.

Comprehending the concept of forced marriage and rape is as basic as feminism gets, and your apparent inability to condemn either is a moral failing on your part.

Forced marriage is a euphemism in itself, because forced marriage naturally encompasses rape. It is a form of modern slavery. Stop sucking up to a middle-aged man, and focus on the iniquity of someone saying a girl couldn't have been forced to marry if her family were there. Does he actually believe that they have the right to consent for her?

However deep his understanding of gender ideology may be (how much depth can we expect from a man who doubted a woman's account of domestic abuse within a forced marriage because she didn't tell enough people because she left the marriage), it is more than cancelled out by dismissing the entire concept of forced marriage.

anotherside · 01/03/2024 06:54

from the Guardian:

“The veteran political agitator George Galloway has won the Rochdale byelection after urging voters to lodge “the ultimate protest” over the conflict in Gaza”

And just a few hours previous to Israel massacring more than a hundred civilians trying to access basic food for their families. Perhaps this win for the “agitator” will be the push British politicians need to stop backing genocide?
Many European leaders are calling Israel out (Macron etc), what’s up with UK?

Itscatsallthewaydown · 01/03/2024 06:57

Dontblameitonsunshine · 01/03/2024 00:34

George Galloway does know about gender ideology and called it out years ago. This board has gone to pieces, it’s full of loudmouths and sycophants

Because we don’t share your enthusiasm for horrendous authoritarian misogynists?

IwishIcouldfinishabook · 01/03/2024 07:04

Itsalwaysthelasttime · 28/02/2024 17:40

Why is GG an arsehole? I dont vast amounts about him, hes a pompous so and so abd the cat was a low point but what else?

Both times he has been elected, he has been a useless MP. His only policy is to rabble rouse about Palestine. He will not represent the people of Rochdale, Muslim or not. Hopefully he will excel himself and prove his utter uselessness before the next election. It will be interesting to see the turnout.

Aishah231 · 01/03/2024 07:11

Lots of people on here parroting the line that Galloway is a madman/nutcase/arsehole etc. I'm wondering what policies of his you disagree with. He's basically Labour before they became New Labour. Doesn't seem that controversial to me. He's just a bit gobby but I prefer that to smarmy and lacking principles.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 01/03/2024 07:12

Aishah231 · 01/03/2024 07:11

Lots of people on here parroting the line that Galloway is a madman/nutcase/arsehole etc. I'm wondering what policies of his you disagree with. He's basically Labour before they became New Labour. Doesn't seem that controversial to me. He's just a bit gobby but I prefer that to smarmy and lacking principles.

Then you don’t know much about him, do you? It might be worth educating yourself.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 01/03/2024 07:15

Here. From the Guardian, a contemporaneous article from another forced marriage survivor, explaining why Galloway's comments were so reprehensible.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/13/george-galloway-forced-marriage-naz-shah

No girls anywhere should be subjected to forced marriage (a package of sexual slavery and domestic forced labour for life), but we are powerless to stop it on the other side of the planet. But we should be able to condemn it as a practice in our own country, and protect and believe victims here.

It won't become acceptable to ignore it if Galloway mouths the right words about gender ideology. I'm not interested in trading the bodies of some girls into sexual slavery to protect others from gender ideology.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/03/2024 07:17

My take fwiw

people In the UK from across the political spectrum don’t trust Tories or Labour seeing them as all part of the political ‘elite. They percive GG as being outside of that elite the same way they do Nigel Farage. It’s interesting that the runner up was an independent candidate.

the next election might see quite a few more independents getting elected.

i think both main parties will be nervous of this possibility

IwishIcouldfinishabook · 01/03/2024 07:19

Peskysquirrel · 29/02/2024 09:34

GG is an arsehole but if he wins it’s going to be interesting to watch the young political activists realise that their contemporary ‘intersectional’ leftism hasn’t reached everyone.

Yep, and we can prepare ourselves for a slew of thinly veiled comments from the London-based left, young and old, implying that the voters of Rochdale are basically thick working-class Northerners who don't know what they're voting for*.
Instead of addressing the obvious point that Labour offers them NOTHING, thus allowing characters like GG to step into the void.

(*see also: Brexit)

I mean, just look at the list of candidates. That's the choice.

I think k it will be the opposite. I don't think you quite realise how much the Identitarian Left hates Kier Starmer. They would revel in any defeat, especially when it's Palestine related. Galloway is part of the Identitarian Left. They will conveniently ignore his opposition to gender self ID because his only policy is Gaza. They will conveniently ignore that he is a terrible local MP and will do absolutely nothing for Rochdale but appear on some marches in London.

Dontdoit1 · 01/03/2024 07:21

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/02/2024 07:58

I didn't hear about his treatment of Naz Shah at the time, but I've googled it now.

I retract my claim that GG is an arsehole, because he is far worse than that. He is ambulatory scum. First, he tried to prove that Naz Shah wasn't a victim of forced marriage because he claimed he had a certificate showing it had happened at 16 and a half, not 15. Naz Shah has supplied a certificate showing she was 15.

The UN defines all marriage under 18 as child marriage, by the way.

Then Galloway's spokesman told the Guardian it couldn't have been a forced marriage because Naz Shah's mother was at the ceremony. What the actual fuck? The parents of forced marriage victims are usually there, because they're doing the forcing! This is how it works; under-eighteens are forced into marriage by emotional and financial coercion from their parents. Galloway is denying the very concept of forced marriage!

Asked whether Galloway disputed Shah’s claim to have been forced into a violent marriage as a teenager – be that at 15 or 16 and a half – and was repeatedly raped in that marriage, McKay said: “In what sense was it a forced marriage? Her mother attended the marriage in 1990 as well as other family members and many witnesses did also, signing and giving fingerprints, so if it was forced presumably her mother and the others were part of that coercion?”

Then his spokeman said that he didn't believe Shah had been subjected to violence because she hadn't reported it while still married to the man.

McKay said that if Shah’s first husband had been violent to her, “then as a British citizen in Pakistan she could have jumped on a plane and left him behind, although I do appreciate that is often extremely difficult. If he was violent to her here – I’m not aware when they came back to Britain – then she could have gone to the police, social services, an imam or whatever. I am not aware, are you, of any such report by her to anyone, here or there?”

But he said Respect was in contact with Shah’s first husband, who has “strongly denied any earlier nikah” or doing her “absolutely any harm”.

link about Galloway being a bastard

Edited

There is no age limit on forced marriage. It can happen at any age.
If she was under 16 then that's a different range of offences her parents could have been charged with (encouraging or facilitating sex with a minor)

Maireas · 01/03/2024 07:25

BackToLurk · 28/02/2024 20:02

It’s a little more than that on Assange. He said that having sex with someone who is asleep wasn’t rape just poor ‘sexual etiquette ‘. He questioned whether Naz Shah was really the victim of a forced marriage. He generally dismisses women. He talks a lot to male Muslim ‘community leaders’ but not their ‘wives and daughters’. (In GG’s eyes that’s who women are). He’s vile.

This. In a nutshell.
He is not a supporter of women's rights.

MyLovelyPurse · 01/03/2024 07:27

@Aishah231 have you read the whole thread, including all the links?

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