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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR on men in women's jails

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fromorbit · 20/02/2024 18:59

Another banger from the Queen of Twitter after she posted about the recent report on men in women's jails in Scotland.

The trans activist outrage that ensues on here whenever I share my belief that jailed women shouldn't be used as validation tools or emotional support props for trans-identified male sex offenders is as revealing as it's predictable.

Such activists can't bring themselves to concede that a man who was convicted of harming women/girls ought not to be incarcerated with the demographic to whom he is a proven danger, because if they do, all their stock arguments ('no sexual predator would bother to pretend to be trans', 'no trans woman has ever harmed a woman in a women's only space', 'there is no danger in making all single sex spaces unisex') are exposed as the lies they are. If they admit that even a single man isn't a woman because he says he is, the entire edifice of gender identity ideology crumbles. This leaves activists who rely on bullying and slogans with nowhere to go but 'you hate all trans people', 'so you're saying all trans people are rapists' and, of course, 'you are causing a trans genocide.'

I think this particular issue also causes conniptions because it threatens the activists' self image. These are people who preen themselves on their kindness and virtue, so acknowledging the truth - that they're indifferent to vulnerable women being assaulted or traumatised - threatens the idea they have of themselves. They therefore double down. The prisoners complaining aren't really afraid of rape or voyeurism or violence at all, they say. They're 'not exactly delicate flowers', as one self-identified empath put it.

If you support putting violent and sexually predatory men into women's prisons, you are knowingly forcing those women to live in fear of, and, in some proven cases, to suffer abuse that many of them will have endured pre-incarceration. You are not kind. You are not righteous. Women have the basic human right not to suffer cruel and unusual punishment. #WomensRightsAreHumanRights
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Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 20:20

Of course I'm not going to eat him, Boiled! 😧

What an appalling suggestion!

The two of us are sitting here multi-tasking - eating chocolate hobnobs, drinking tea, listening to a Lord Peter Wimsey radio drama, and surfing mumsnet. When I said I thought they were all gone, I meant that I assumed the our antipodean flightless guests had all returned to the Antarctic after their holiday in our fridge.

It seems that one of them couldn't find his passport and is having to stop for a few more weeks.

It turns out that flippers are the perfect distance apart for winding knitting yarn - what great luck!

Edited because I'd mis-gendered the penguin as "it".

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 20:28

@Emotionalsupportviper Next you'll be teaching him how to knit

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IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 20:45

He'll make little woolly hats for all the penguins.

Edited to remove 'bobble' <shudder>

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 21:10

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 20:28

@Emotionalsupportviper Next you'll be teaching him how to knit

How did you get that?

It is a private family photograph!

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 21:19

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 20:45

He'll make little woolly hats for all the penguins.

Edited to remove 'bobble' <shudder>

Edited

Don't be too hard on yourself - we all make mistakes.

<looks around to check no-one is about>

<whispers>

I typed "wellibobs" once.*

I don't know where it came from. I never say "wellibobs". Or "hollibobs". Or"hubby". Any one of them would choke me.

It was a very long time before I could even bring myself to use any of those keys again. A. my pt- had -pace-- in th-m. It got very confusing.

*Forgive me - I knew not what I did.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 21:24

Thank you 😢Flowers

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 21:53

Emotionalsupportviper · 01/03/2024 21:10

How did you get that?

It is a private family photograph!

You know that key you keep under the third plant pot to the left of the fourth wheelie bin two steps to the right of the shed with the primroses in

😁

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 21:56

Bobble hats. Did someone mention bobble hats?

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Emotionalsupportviper · 02/03/2024 07:26

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 21:53

You know that key you keep under the third plant pot to the left of the fourth wheelie bin two steps to the right of the shed with the primroses in

😁

Dammit!

The Mice showed you where it was, didn't they? Little buggers!

🐭

Emotionalsupportviper · 02/03/2024 07:27

Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2024 21:56

Bobble hats. Did someone mention bobble hats?

Quelle horreur! 😧

turbonerd · 02/03/2024 08:51

😂😂❤️

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