JKR on men in women's jails

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Another banger from the Queen of Twitter after she posted about the recent report on men in women's jails in Scotland.

The trans activist outrage that ensues on here whenever I share my belief that jailed women shouldn't be used as validation tools or emotional support props for trans-identified male sex offenders is as revealing as it's predictable.

Such activists can't bring themselves to concede that a man who was convicted of harming women/girls ought not to be incarcerated with the demographic to whom he is a proven danger, because if they do, all their stock arguments ('no sexual predator would bother to pretend to be trans', 'no trans woman has ever harmed a woman in a women's only space', 'there is no danger in making all single sex spaces unisex') are exposed as the lies they are. If they admit that even a single man isn't a woman because he says he is, the entire edifice of gender identity ideology crumbles. This leaves activists who rely on bullying and slogans with nowhere to go but 'you hate all trans people', 'so you're saying all trans people are rapists' and, of course, 'you are causing a trans genocide.'

I think this particular issue also causes conniptions because it threatens the activists' self image. These are people who preen themselves on their kindness and virtue, so acknowledging the truth - that they're indifferent to vulnerable women being assaulted or traumatised - threatens the idea they have of themselves. They therefore double down. The prisoners complaining aren't really afraid of rape or voyeurism or violence at all, they say. They're 'not exactly delicate flowers', as one self-identified empath put it.

If you support putting violent and sexually predatory men into women's prisons, you are knowingly forcing those women to live in fear of, and, in some proven cases, to suffer abuse that many of them will have endured pre-incarceration. You are not kind. You are not righteous. Women have the basic human right not to suffer cruel and unusual punishment. #WomensRightsAreHumanRights
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I sincerely hope she's not.

Navalny ended up dead.

The ignoring of IW is very entertaining!

Steph Richards also got served by JKR now in a great illustration of what she was talking about as Richards claimed no-one is asking to put rapists and murderers in women's jails. JKR just quoted Nandy famous trainwreck in response. Getting more glorious.

JKR is spectacular. Calm, accurate and knowledgeable about this whole shit-show.

I hope she reads the threads on here and understands how much we all appreciate her.

JKR puts it all so well. Clear and unambiguous and she dismantles the sophistry they hide behind. She should consider a career in writing. I think she'd do very well!

'Please take me to court some day'.

Daft prick.

Poor IW, desperate for a date.

The dignity JKR always holds herself with is something to be admired. She never lowers herself to TRA level of spatting, spouting hatred, threatening violence, insulting anyone, making bizarrely unintelligent comments/medical claims or refusing to answer a simple question with a straight answer. Her replies/comments are always clear, concise and factual. She is a seriously intelligent woman, IW is neither and it shows every time.

It’s such a male thing to do, to think that your pea-sized brain could win against a woman of her capabilities. And to have no idea that people can see the difference between the two opponents. Apart from the staggering misogyny etc you just cringe.

One of the things that JKRowling does BEFORE she tweets is that she makes sure she has examples of what she says. She has the evidence.

Unlike all the people who say JKRowling has said anti-trans things but mysteriously can't find an example to illustrate their point after they've said it.

Its quite the contrast.

Gotta love a Windy mantrum.

There is something intrinsically hilarious about the fact that every time India insists on her womanliness, her inner maleness (interrupting while women are talking, patronising women who are infinitely cleverer than India) somehow shines through even more.

Getting strong vibes from your post :)

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JKR has been on a roll the last few days. The TRAs must be absolutely stotting!

Rosie Duffield is on the BBC now talking about MP's safety. She's wearing a dinosaur brooch😍

Just briefly with a few others. Something to do with the Gaza vote yesterday. She mentioned JKR and Joanna Cherry.

Well, yes.

I meant with her perseverance, her determination not to be silenced, her bravery, her ability to deflect direct attacks with innate charm, her intelligence and most of all her conviction in the fairness and rightness of her views.

As is often the case, I find myself actually largely agreeing with the surface level point she's making here - there is a subset of offenders who should not be housed with other women due to safety concerns. Makes perfect practical sense. No disagreement.

This nonsense about an entire edifice crumbling down though? You can acknowledge that some humans do terrible things that make them a danger to others and also that being transgender is in no way an exemption from being human.

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JKR is far more eloquent than I am but she is right If you accept one transwoman should not serve their sentence in a women’s prison how do you justify allowing any transwomen?

How do you identify the transwomen prisoners that will harm women prisoners from those that will not?

The entire edifice of transwomen in women’s prisons has already started to crumble with Isla Bryson, Barbie Kardashian, Karen White et al.

No. You can't have it all ways.
Either transwomen are women or they're not. You can't suddenly decide that the numerous rapists, sex offenders, paedophiles, violent men aren't women cos it's embarrassing while every other man who claims to be a woman must be accepted and invited into women's single sex spaces.

Women and girls have neither the time nor the inclination to work out whether the naked man in the changing room is one of the dangerous men, a mentally unwell man, a flasher on the route to serial sex offending or just an entitled man who doesn't respect women, girls and our right to say no.

NO.

…..there is a subset of offenders who should not be housed with other women due to safety concerns.

Men being housed in the female estate are not other women. They are men.

Being transgender is in no way an exemption from being male.

Just as being transgender is in no way an exemption from being female, in the context of why transmen never seem to be imprisoned in the male estate.

So well explained. Thank you JKR for writing this.

We have male and female prisons.
Only males can be transwomen.
The end.

And let’s not forget those in the prison estate are only those who have been caught, convicted and sentenced to prison.

There are an awful lot more males out there (including those who identify as something other than men) who are violating women and girl’s boundaries, committing violent and sexual offences and are never caught or prosecuted.

Prisons is just one aspect of it and of course hugely important. But Steph’s argument that if they’re convicted male sex offenders then of course no one thinks they should be in women’s prisons spectacularly fails to consider the real harm done to women and girls everyday when male people enter female spaces.

And that’s before we even look at their documented plan (Denton’s was it?) to strategise to get male sex offenders in women’s prisons because they thought of society would accept TWAW there, they’d accept it anywhere.

The sheer calculating callousness of using vulnerable women as pawns for their own ends is despicable. I cannot express how disgusted I am by them.

How do you identify the prisoners that will harm prisoners from those that will not?