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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

For women Scotland given leave to appeal.

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Rainbowshit · 16/02/2024 12:12

x.com/forwomenscot/status/1758462083832639848?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Great news. We need to get digging.

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lechiffre55 · 17/02/2024 18:26

My contribution.

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Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 18:28

@lechiffre55 Wonderful!

😂😍😘

lechiffre55 · 17/02/2024 18:33

For every pound pledged a misogynist somewhere sheds a whole bucket of tears. I only wish I could give more.

lechiffre55 · 17/02/2024 18:37

Dunno who did this but it's funny :)

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OneMorePlant · 17/02/2024 18:53

The thing I love most about being a "terf" is watching so many wonderful women come together for a cause and do it with a lot of humour

You ladies all make me laugh so much and it's very needed to deal with this nonsense.

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 19:01

I'm sure I'm missing many but these two together is to good to pass up.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/02/2024 19:12

I'm sure a crowdfunder was pulled in the past for people taking the piss in the comments

It was. I think it was Jennifer James' ill fated one re all women shortlists. I think it was Jack Monroe who complained about exactly this, and they acted, though it may have been a different funding platform. Donations were all returned and she had to set up again and ask people to donate again so while many of these are very funny, I wouldn't recommend it.

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 19:52

£114 000

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Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 20:37

Naughty! But funny!

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RoyalCorgi · 17/02/2024 20:43

I was extremely amused at Willoughby describing For Women Scotland as an organisation "run out of a bedroom" - as if this was a reason to dismiss them as opposed to testimony to the magnificence of their achievement in getting this case heard in the Supreme Court. Just a handful of women, dedicated, determined, hardworking women, giving it their utmost - and succeeding.

IwantToRetire · 17/02/2024 20:45

AuContraire · 17/02/2024 05:20

The striking down of the Scot Gov Gender Recognition Reform Bill via Westminster's S35 is dependent upon Haldane, is it not?

But I agree this needs sorted out once and for all. If FWS don't win, then the law needs changed, and this will show that.

i hope there are some good quality arguments made given it's the Supreme Court. I hope it can be live streamed.

No its dependent on the UK wide EA being undermined by Scotland having an act that isn't compatible with it.

The worry for the future (before this challenge was allowed) would be that is Wales and NI both try and enact something similar to the Scottish GRR, then effectively 3/4 of the UK would be saying the EA is wrong. Which could lead to the EA being ammended to allow the lowering of the age limit on transitioning and on self ID.

IwantToRetire · 17/02/2024 20:52

The terms of the more recent law always take precedent.

My understanding is that change an occur is Judges consistently interpret a law in a way that could be said to be slightly different to the original intention.

So if prior to Haldane any number of Judges had ruled that the phrase "for all purposes" was too vague and the fact that the SSE were written identified that in reality the law recognised that women are biological females, she might have made a different ruling.

But it is clear that unfortunately, more and more we cant rely on political campaigning and lobbying, but have to hope that a legal case will either clarify a law, or even mean it has to be redefined.

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 20:54

I love this one

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Humanslug · 17/02/2024 20:56

Katy M is seething that trans women might not be allowed on all-women short-lists or be allowed to take advantage of schemes set up to counter the under-representation of women on Boards, in politics etc.. How on earth will they be allowed to compete or participate in anything if they have to compete with others of their own sex?Nasty JKR protecting the females again!

Katy, JKR doesn’t hate you, she isn’t scared/phobic of you, she just loves and wants to support females. With Beira’s Place and this generous donation she’s just putting her money where her mouth is.

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 20:59

£116 000

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IwantToRetire · 17/02/2024 20:59

You have to wonder why all the TRAs and followers are so angry.

Given how convinced they are of the legality that TWAW and should be running women only services, etc., you would think they would be thrilled that there is going to be a court case to settle it once and for all. And that "terfs " are paying for it.

It couldn't just be could it, that they have suddently realised that the bluff they have managed to pull over these last few years, is going to be called?

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 21:08

https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1758937382957539526?s=19

"I can't get over how much £70,000 is. That's a deposit for a house. It's absolutely life changing money. And she chose to use it to try and make trans women have fewer legal protections from misogynistic sexism"

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/02/2024 21:45

"I can't get over how much £70,000 is.

Yes Katy, that's not even half of what this court action is going to cost. Lawyers aren't going to be poor any time soon!

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 21:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/02/2024 21:45

"I can't get over how much £70,000 is.

Yes Katy, that's not even half of what this court action is going to cost. Lawyers aren't going to be poor any time soon!

I'm tempted to tell Katy that for less than that I could have bought my house three times over!

nothingcomestonothing · 17/02/2024 21:48

RoyalCorgi · 17/02/2024 20:43

I was extremely amused at Willoughby describing For Women Scotland as an organisation "run out of a bedroom" - as if this was a reason to dismiss them as opposed to testimony to the magnificence of their achievement in getting this case heard in the Supreme Court. Just a handful of women, dedicated, determined, hardworking women, giving it their utmost - and succeeding.

So is GC feminism risible because it's run on a shoe string from a bedroom, or because it's an astroturfed movement funded by the Christian far right??

It's almost like TRAs want to have theys cake and eat it 🤔

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 21:49

And does the fact that it's run out of the living room and not the bedroom make a difference?

nothingcomestonothing · 17/02/2024 21:58

Boiledbeetle · 17/02/2024 21:49

And does the fact that it's run out of the living room and not the bedroom make a difference?

The living room identifies as a bedroom, you bigot!

AllieDeCorbeau · 17/02/2024 22:00

I wish them all the best of luck. if they win, and I'm confident that they will, it will set precedent for not just the UK but other countries. It could be a huge tipping point.

LarkLane · 17/02/2024 22:05

The comments are really making me smile.
Sorry it’s not more, I currently owe thousands elsewhere x Fat Tony.