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For women Scotland given leave to appeal.

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Rainbowshit · 16/02/2024 12:12

x.com/forwomenscot/status/1758462083832639848?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Great news. We need to get digging.

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PriOn1 · 16/02/2024 21:28

Wow! I couldn’t believe it had gone up so fast. So many wonderful women. Thanks to all of those who have already pledged.

Just great news as well.

Citrusandginger · 16/02/2024 21:31

Wow! So pleased to read this. Have made a very small contribution. Every grain counts. Grin

Redshoeblueshoe · 16/02/2024 21:45

Glad to see JKR's fantastic donation

Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 21:52

Just gone over £80 000

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ArtfullyCrumpled · 16/02/2024 22:08

Amazing! 🤩 I'll donate.

Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 22:24

And a couple more grand in donations!

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Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 22:35

Tweet from For Women Scotland

https://twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1758616300333473801?t=RYS1EEDl3W9BuLCalDgs4w&s=19

Completely emotional day - thank you to all who are making this challenge possible - especially @jk_rowling (we are uncharacteristically struck dumb!).
This matters for the whole of the UK. Let us find out once and for all where women stand in law. Thank you.
Night x

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Signalbox · 16/02/2024 22:39

This is so exciting.
I wonder how long it takes for a case to be heard in the SC.
Presumably we will be able to watch it live.

JoanOgden · 16/02/2024 22:45

lonelywater · 16/02/2024 20:06

This is surely a slam dunk? The Kool aid gang can wibble all they like (and no doubt will) about gender, but sex is, er, sex? (and before anyone starts, you can fuck off with your clownfish-we are not fish)

Absolutely not a slam dunk given that FWS lost the original case then the first appeal. But will be fascinating to see what the Supreme Court make of this.

Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 22:53

And another 1000. And 400 pledges. So that's 399 people and the 👑 wonderful JKR

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Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 23:07

And another 1000 in donations!

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lonelywater · 16/02/2024 23:27

JoanOgden · 16/02/2024 22:45

Absolutely not a slam dunk given that FWS lost the original case then the first appeal. But will be fascinating to see what the Supreme Court make of this.

true, but Maya lost her first tribunal (thanks to nutter in charge) but the supreme court is another matter entirely?

FannyCann · 16/02/2024 23:29

Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 22:35

Tweet from For Women Scotland

https://twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1758616300333473801?t=RYS1EEDl3W9BuLCalDgs4w&s=19

Completely emotional day - thank you to all who are making this challenge possible - especially @jk_rowling (we are uncharacteristically struck dumb!).
This matters for the whole of the UK. Let us find out once and for all where women stand in law. Thank you.
Night x

I think the TRAs are struck dumb too. Not seen anything yet.

Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 23:30

JKR is very vocal this evening

Literally every £ counts. From each according to their ability, as a notorious TERF who believed women were oppressed due to their sex once said

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1758631568476680686?t=LTQ491GlC9olVoA2-_As8A&s=19

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Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 23:37

I missed £85 000 as I was making a cup of tea. It's now over £86 000

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Boiledbeetle · 16/02/2024 23:59

I'm off to my bed at £86,647

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Catiette · 17/02/2024 00:02

Donated.

IwantToRetire · 17/02/2024 00:46

but the supreme court is another matter entirely?

No all of these court case are about how the Law is written. As I said up thread, as both earlier cased showed, if Judges just strictly look at the words which say "for all purposes" a man with a GRC is a woman (and the tiny tiny concession which shows they know he really isn't) exempt under the limited occassions under the Single Sex Exemptions).

Can the High Court say that a Law is badly written, ie instruct Parliment to rewrite a Law?

Have just seen this:

Section 4 of the Human Rights Act says that if a higher court (such as the High Court, Court of Appeal or Supreme Court) considers that part of an Act of Parliament is incompatible with human rights, it can make a declaration of incompatibility.
https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/your-rights/the-human-rights-act/how-the-human-rights-act-works/

How the Human Rights Act works - Liberty

https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/your-rights/the-human-rights-act/how-the-human-rights-act-works

Datun · 17/02/2024 00:52

Wonderful news.

And God, I'm bloody glad that J K Rowling is on our side.

Cancelledcurio · 17/02/2024 00:58

Marvellous . Popping over to see if they need any hardy annuals.

AuContraire · 17/02/2024 05:20

The striking down of the Scot Gov Gender Recognition Reform Bill via Westminster's S35 is dependent upon Haldane, is it not?

But I agree this needs sorted out once and for all. If FWS don't win, then the law needs changed, and this will show that.

i hope there are some good quality arguments made given it's the Supreme Court. I hope it can be live streamed.

Rainbowshit · 17/02/2024 06:59

AuContraire · 17/02/2024 05:20

The striking down of the Scot Gov Gender Recognition Reform Bill via Westminster's S35 is dependent upon Haldane, is it not?

But I agree this needs sorted out once and for all. If FWS don't win, then the law needs changed, and this will show that.

i hope there are some good quality arguments made given it's the Supreme Court. I hope it can be live streamed.

This is what worries me.

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highame · 17/02/2024 07:35

I imagine quite a few political parties will be happy for this to be heard by the SC. It's great, but it's pretty scary dontya think

PaleBlueMoonlight · 17/02/2024 07:48

This is wonderful news and terrifying in equal measure.