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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Katy Jon Went interviewed on Heretics

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ANameChangePresents · 15/02/2024 20:41

It's the most click-baity video title ever...

I Tell Trans Person A Very Difficult TRUTH (Heated!)

Currently watching this and thus far Gold hasn't really challenged Went that strongly, which I mean, is reasonable. It's not a boxing match. That said Went has deployed a tonne of tripe so far dressed up as 'reasonable'.

The argument that 'life is all about accommodating each other' (using religion coexistence as a metaphor) fails to mention how the accomodation in this instance is entirely one damn way...

If anything else (positive or negative) crops up, I'll post. Summary at the end.

Has anyone else here watched this yet?

I Tell Trans Person A Very Difficult TRUTH (Heated!) - Katy Jon Went (4K) | heretics. 29

Podcaster Andrew Gold debates trans person Katy Jon Went about trans activism, changing rooms, sports and autogynephilia (AGP). The pair have a fun and inter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtyG84oV4c

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MarieDeGournay · 17/02/2024 10:59

The clitoris is astonishing, isn't it. Here's another fabulous pic. The clitoris in yellow, with attendant female sex organs.
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Fabulous pic indeed, Datun. I think I remember it from The Blue Planet☺

Datun · 17/02/2024 13:23

MarieDeGournay · 17/02/2024 10:59

The clitoris is astonishing, isn't it. Here's another fabulous pic. The clitoris in yellow, with attendant female sex organs.
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Fabulous pic indeed, Datun. I think I remember it from The Blue Planet☺

If you stuck that in the Tate Modern, I wonder how many people would recognise it! 😁

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/02/2024 17:17

Rightsraptor · 17/02/2024 10:12

The more I think about KJW invading women's changing rooms, the crosser I get, both with KJW and the female friend who decided unilaterally that it was fine.

KJW self-describes as not 'passing' as a woman (I agree totally), having a male voice (yes) but having D cup breasts. So any woman in that changing room would see and hear a man. With breasts. Do KJW and friend really have no concept of the distress that would cause a lot of women?

And this was in a Bannatyne gym, where birth sex applies.

I hope Bannatyne gyms ban KJW and the enabling friend.

Random question (not aimed at anyone in particular): Why is it always D cup? I’ve noticed this pattern; they always get D cups 🙄🤷‍♀️

Also, as stated before, Bannatyne gyms adhere to single-sex exceptions for their changing rooms and they are very well known for doing so; isn’t it interesting that Went felt it was perfectly fine to ignore this gym chain’s official policy and enter a space that is advertised as, and expected to be, single-sex only 🤔

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2024 17:39

UtopiaPlanitia · Today 17:17

Also, as stated before, Bannatyne gyms adhere to single-sex exceptions for their changing rooms and they are very well known for doing so; isn’t it interesting that Went felt it was perfectly fine to ignore this gym chain’s official policy and enter a space that is advertised as, and expected to be, single-sex only

I wonder if the man himself could be induced to intervene and ban Katyjon? It's a deliberate abuse of the facilities and gym membership are agreements, which work in both directions.

Datun · 17/02/2024 19:29

Also, as stated before, Bannatyne gyms adhere to single-sex exceptions for their changing rooms and they are very well known for doing so; isn’t it interesting that Went felt it was perfectly fine to ignore this gym chain’s official policy

Yes Duncan Bannatyne is the only gym owner to come out and specify that women means women.

This is entirely in character with the MO of transactivation. Anyone who thinks Katie John went is anything other than promoting transactivation isn't paying attention.

StealthSpinach · 18/02/2024 01:52

MarieDeGournay · 17/02/2024 10:59

The clitoris is astonishing, isn't it. Here's another fabulous pic. The clitoris in yellow, with attendant female sex organs.
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Fabulous pic indeed, Datun. I think I remember it from The Blue Planet☺

That amazing picture would make a brilliant logo for a Women’s group/political party/flag….

SaunteringOnBy · 18/02/2024 06:35

Just highlighting this:

But like I said, there will be a point when we have to coexist

There should be a point where MEN are made to coexist with trans women as Trans Women are a type of man. They're male, most have a penis, most went through male puberty - they're all Male.
Women shouldn't have to move over for men, wether they're a good little fetishist that won't rape anyone and that gets head pats from women or a bad one using trans as cover to access victims.

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