Sunak telling Robin White that biological sex is important live on GB news

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'Particularly when it comes to questions around women's safety and health, biological sex is important.' Parents need to be involved in schools.

Rishi Sunak is asked 'why should LGBT people vote Conservative?'
GB News forum footage here:
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

It’s available on BBC Sounds too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0h24g5v

I always take Jon Ronson with a (large) pinch of salt on anything to do with gender stuff. He’s not what I would call a reliable narrator.

He’s incredibly whiny. I couldn’t get past the voice

But I doubt he’s speaking well for women

It’ll just be another version of women accept it. The same thing posted about over and over

For those wondering. That podcast is about being changed psychologically through being all alone in covid lockdown. Plus Florida/ De Santis/ USA politics/creepy music/ Ronson's odd voice/anecdotal shite from Mom blah blah.

I learned nothing new apart from being made aware of what Adam listens to.

It was like listening to an episode of Southpark really. Just my view.

Thank you

Did you ever explain what you meant by 'gender identity'? I think that's one question you repeatedly refused to answer.

And I haven't asked you what you mean by safeguarding. I have said that you don't seem to understand what it is or how it works in schools. But there would be no point in asking you what you mean by safeguarding because you obviously don't understand what it means.

Its not actually. It has no conclusions at all. Just a insight into this particular debate and how it played out in florida. I found it interesting. You do have to get used to his voice though.

He’s incredibly whiny. I couldn’t get past the voice

It's the creepy voice that gets me, too.

Robin Ince is the same - just . . . NO! ,boak>

In the first series he also did an episode about Michfest which was worth a listen. A very DH-esque character in that one.

Did you know about the murder that was weirdly left out of that one?
Really odd- I'd enjoyed the series till then but this really made it clear that stuff was being picked and chosen based on what made a neat little story.

Yes I usually like cultural in depth stuff on R4 and would probably stick with it but the voice was too much

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Rivers#Murders_and_trial

re my previous post

No! I don't! Send me the links!
I sort of knew about michfest but it was interesting to hear about it from people who were there and my GC feminism definitely impacted how I interpretation events. It was pretty relevant alongside the current twitter spats too

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4828535-jon-ronson-misrepresented-the-murder-of-women-by-trans-camp-member

Plus Ronson’s attitude to TW in sport.

Looking at this it only went to court in 2022 so maybe there were legal concerns about prejudicing a trial? I'll read the other thread
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11313137/amp/Trans-activist-finally-stand-trial-2016-murder-lesbians-son-week.html

Up until recently, the charity Feeding Britain had an office at 55 Tufton Street, and they're not a right-wing political group. In fact they're pushing back against the Tory policies that are driving people into poverty and hunger.

Doesn't matter that they aren't a right-wing group - because of the office address, they are "linked to" right-wing groups, which is just as bad...

I remember the argument about Tufton St on here and, despite having been on MN for ages, was still amazed at the weak sauce that is pulled up to supposedly prove a group is hateful and wrong.

weak sauce that is pulled up to supposedly prove a group is hateful and wrong.

Saying an organisation is not being transparent about its agenda is not saying "hateful and wrong". Why the hyperbole?

Don't Sully Your Soul By Looking At Bad Media!

Better stick to The Guardian

Oh hang on..

Remember that photo of the guy in the middle of the Nazi rally who would do the Nazi salute?

Yeah well he was German and in the middle of a Nazi rally, therefore he's associated with the Nazis.

Quite clearly this made him an actual Nazi.

I don't think 'guilt by association' is admissible in a court of law. Can't think why.

I often link the guardian purely because there is no paywall.

Honestly why has the Tufton Street thing reignited this morning? It's so weird how much its winding people up. Very strange.

I really don't understand the Tufton St thing.

Addresses can't be hateful. Unless there's a postcode that says "UP R1K"?

Just think of any discussion around Tufton St as the same as any thread about a Daily Mail link, KJK, GB News or anyone who isn’t as left wing as Lenin and it will make sense.

Guilt by association purity spiralling, but the real estate version.

Where did anyone say anything about "hateful"? I don't think the organisations are hateful, I think they are pushing particular political agendas and are deliberately non-transparent. They are donating to the government and I'm not sure the policies they push are motivated by what's best for population of the UK.

I'm concerned by how often they turn out to be the source of divisive stories, and why they would want to get involved on that. That's all.

It's not purity spiralling to alert people to particular agendas. In fact you've just tried to do exactly the same by writing this: " Daily Mail link, KJK, GB News or anyone who isn’t as left wing as Lenin"

As if anyone who doesn't follow the pronouncements if GB news must be "as left wing as lenin" and therefore bad