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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

51 year Woman charged with sexual assault of a child in Witney town centre

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CousinGreg55 · 09/02/2024 19:27

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/02/2024 23:26

I wonder if the lawyers/police interviewing that poor child will refer to the man who penetrated her as a woman. If so, shame on them- lying to a girl about what happened to her

The teenager was male.

EbonyRaven · 10/02/2024 23:38

I knew what this was going to be about. EXACTLY. Like the majority of posters here, I am SO sick of this shit now!

HorribleNecktie · 11/02/2024 00:00

Do we know for certain the teenage victim was male? Given the reporting lying about the sex of the rapist, the victim may well be a teen girl who identifies as trans.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 11/02/2024 00:07

Do we know for certain the teenage victim was male? Given the reporting lying about the sex of the rapist, the victim may well be a teen girl who identifies as trans.

Good point. No, we don't.

YouJustDoYou · 11/02/2024 07:40

How interesting that the trans-activists/"allies" who often pop in to have their say on these boards haven't reared their little heads to defend this guy.....

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/02/2024 08:01

Another man rapist rapes a child whilst pretending that they are a woman. How have the politicians allowed this to happen?

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 08:04

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/02/2024 08:01

Another man rapist rapes a child whilst pretending that they are a woman. How have the politicians allowed this to happen?

How does the public not vote for it not to happen?

The GRA is why it happens but so many seem not to care

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/02/2024 08:06

YouJustDoYou · 11/02/2024 07:40

How interesting that the trans-activists/"allies" who often pop in to have their say on these boards haven't reared their little heads to defend this guy.....

Yeah odd isn’t it how suggestions, BH, mishy etc are never on these threads isn’t it

GailBlancheViola · 11/02/2024 11:42

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/02/2024 08:06

Yeah odd isn’t it how suggestions, BH, mishy etc are never on these threads isn’t it

Yes.

Mind you they'd either have to admit what never happens actually does happen, or deny the existence of this TW (as per Isla Bryson infamously given the new gender of rapist) or admit they believe these happenings that never happen are a price worth everyone else paying so trans can get everything they want and then some.

They lack the courage to be honest.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/02/2024 17:07

Well done Matthew Barber. 10/10.

"In a free society we are, and should be, able to live our lives at liberty to describe ourselves however we like - providing it doesn't affect other people.

"In cases of serious sexual offending when public protection is at stake the vast majority of people will rightly expect the criminal justice system to deal in facts and nothing more."

aModernClassic · 11/02/2024 17:35

Yes, that was good to see on Twitter. We need more Matthews.

Waffleson · 11/02/2024 17:39

I know the area where this crime happened. Witan Way is a road at the edge of the town and on one side there's a riverside footpath, lots of tree cover, not the sort of place you would want to walk in the dark.

It's very concerning to think the victim might have seen a "woman" following them and thought nothing of it. Or might have arranged to meet a woman.

TVP also report that the police attended the scene and made the arrest then and there. It all seems very unusual. No doubt more will come out when it goes to trial.

NotTerfNorCis · 11/02/2024 17:50

So sick of this misreporting.

It should be the norm to say 'transwoman' or similar, because transwomen aren't women, and we shouldn't be pretending male predators are female.

tiggergoesbounce · 11/02/2024 17:54

But let's not think the Tories will do anything. They've allowed this to happen

But tory voters don't want to see that.
They dont come on to acknowledge and state their true disgust at at this happening on a tory watch. They say "labour blah blah"
Pretty disgusting not to call them out on it.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/02/2024 18:00

tiggergoesbounce · 11/02/2024 17:54

But let's not think the Tories will do anything. They've allowed this to happen

But tory voters don't want to see that.
They dont come on to acknowledge and state their true disgust at at this happening on a tory watch. They say "labour blah blah"
Pretty disgusting not to call them out on it.

Is it Labour or Conservative defined though, or is it the neutral civil service being successfully lobbied by an aggressive group? I think all political parties should call it out tbh as they should be more aware of legislation than Joe Public. Let's put the blame squarely on those people behind the scenes, not the voters.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 18:02

tiggergoesbounce · 11/02/2024 17:54

But let's not think the Tories will do anything. They've allowed this to happen

But tory voters don't want to see that.
They dont come on to acknowledge and state their true disgust at at this happening on a tory watch. They say "labour blah blah"
Pretty disgusting not to call them out on it.

A fair few of us are pushing ahead on this as we can

I’ve lobbied etc

But anyone who thinks Labour will have someone challenging gender ideology is in for a shock

tiggergoesbounce · 11/02/2024 18:09

Is it Labour or Conservative defined though, or is it the neutral civil service being successfully lobbied by an aggressive group? I think all political parties should call it out tbh as they should be more aware of legislation than Joe Public. Let's put the blame squarely on those people behind the scenes, not the voters

I couldn't agree more. This is currently a tory issue ! They should be disgusted in themselves for allowing this to happen. I will never vote for them as they have proven their disrespect and disregard for women.

My point was aimed at people's main comment about this disgraceful story, was to aim it at a party that is not even in power, rather thab calling out the people who are allowing this to happen.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 18:14

tiggergoesbounce · 11/02/2024 18:09

Is it Labour or Conservative defined though, or is it the neutral civil service being successfully lobbied by an aggressive group? I think all political parties should call it out tbh as they should be more aware of legislation than Joe Public. Let's put the blame squarely on those people behind the scenes, not the voters

I couldn't agree more. This is currently a tory issue ! They should be disgusted in themselves for allowing this to happen. I will never vote for them as they have proven their disrespect and disregard for women.

My point was aimed at people's main comment about this disgraceful story, was to aim it at a party that is not even in power, rather thab calling out the people who are allowing this to happen.

The GRA is a Labour policy

Are you really relying on them to fix what they brought in?

Especially when they say they will ‘defend their Acts’

Who exactly are you relying on, can you give a name?

Chersfrozenface · 11/02/2024 18:57

Suella Braverman, lamentable though she is on many issues, when she was Home Secretary told police forces not to refer to transwomen accused of sex offences as women.

She is a Tory

DerekFaker · 11/02/2024 19:00

Full statement:

51 year old arrested in Witney for sexual offences is male

11 Feb

Last week, a child was reported missing and later subjected to a serious sexual assault in Oxfordshire. My greatest concern is for the victim and ensuring they receive the support they need and I would urge anyone discussing this case to remember that there is a real child behind all of this.

From my discussions with the Force over the last few days, the operational policing response by Thames Valley Police appears to have been exemplary. The victim and the suspect have been identified by CCTV operators who were able to direct officers immediately to safeguard the child and arrest the suspect. The case is being handled by the specialist Child Abuse Investigation Unit and the suspect has been charged and remanded into custody. This demonstrates excellent policing and I commend the officers involved for their work to tackle predatory sexual offenders.

I am concerned by the description of the individual, Osareen Omoruyi, as a woman. Thames Valley Police have, mistakenly in my view, relied on the ”self-described gender” in publishing a press release that incorrectly states that a woman has been charged with these offences.

My understanding is that magistrates in Oxford have quite rightly remanded Omoruyi to a male prison.

So why does this matter? I emphasise again that the police, the CPS and the courts have all acted swiftly to protect a child and in due course, to be able to present evidence to the court that will hopefully secure a conviction.

Speculation on social media however is already having the potential to detract from this important reality.
The police and other criminal justice agencies must deal in facts, as best evidenced to them at the time. Any failure to do so risks damaging public confidence and overshadowing excellent policing in the interests of public safety.
In my view it was clearly wrong to describe the suspect as a woman. It is important that the public, and possibly other victims have a clear understanding of the facts. It is important that statistics around sexual offending are accurate.
In a free society we are, and should be, able to live our lives at liberty to describe ourselves however we like - providing it doesn’t affect other people. In cases of serious sexual offending when public protection is at stake the vast majority of people will rightly expect the criminal justice system to deal in facts and nothing more.

The accused in this case, Osareen Omoruyi, is a 51 year old male.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 19:03

@DerekFaker why was your thread on this deleted?

GailBlancheViola · 11/02/2024 19:12

Excellent statement.

DerekFaker · 11/02/2024 19:31

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 19:03

@DerekFaker why was your thread on this deleted?

I asked for it to be when I realised there was already a thread on this man.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2024 19:39

DerekFaker · 11/02/2024 19:31

I asked for it to be when I realised there was already a thread on this man.

Fair enough. Although I was appreciating your thread title with man in it