At least the fucker is dead.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68255937

Thoughts with the woman who remains in hospital, and her two girls. May they all have lots of support and help to heal.

@BitingtheSkirting - you are right. I appreciate it's neither a moral nor ethical stance.

However, I work with asylum seekers. I (and my team) support women and children who are victims of gender based violence, honour-based violence, FGM, systematic sexual assault, trafficking. The works. Day-in, day-out.

The years and years of recovery and trauma survivors have to endure because of people like this man. I guess I cannot give an impartial (and probably not even a rational) response on this topic.

@DeedlessIndeed that makes me feel stressed I don’t want men that inflict that on women here

I don't think I'll believe it untill they pull his body out the water.

I hope he suffered

Thank you for the work you do, Deedless.

I was also moved by the woman who helped the wee girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68198779

@EasternStandard - mostly this has happened in their country of origin, and is a reason why the people fled. The response to complex trauma has such a huge impact on survivors lives though. It takes years of healing and support for some women.

However, we do see a lot of cases of domestic violence, gender based violence, commercialised sexual exploitation and forced labour all occurring in the UK every single week.

Honestly, humanity can be dreadful.

No body, no proof. These scum bags are slippery

Family annihilators and spree killers very commonly die by suicide during or shortly after their crimes.

(I appreciate that, fortunately, none of his victims have so far died but, in other respects, this is a similar crime)

I don’t believe it either, he’s too selfish to do this to himself.

The police don’t have a clue and just want to conclude the investigation.

If he had killed them then my view would be different but he didn't. Even the little girl survived without life threatening injuries despite him having a good go at slamming her poor body repeatedly against the ground. He wouldn't kill himself until the job was done.

I can't find it now but didn't someone in his own family say that he couldn't be a sex offender as he was too nice. He's being protected imo.

Does that follow for men that do acid attacks?

I find it fascinating how invested people are in rejecting the obvious solution.

1. He committed a narcissistic crime of abuse. Narcissistic abusers commonly die by suicide after a crime.

2. He had a very obvious injury that makes him easy to identify.

3. He was last seen on CCTV, pacing on a bridge and looking into a river.

It's Nicola Bulley all over again, in terms of people rejecting the obvious. No doubt there will be loads of these "I just feel it in my bones that he is alive" threads, only for people to go very quiet when his body is found.

Could he still be alive? Yes. Is it much more likely that he is dead? Also yes.

Dying is not easy. Killing oneself is not easy. Framing it that way is unhelpful and just sounds bloodthirsty.

I find it entirely credible that on realising he'd destroyed his own life through his actions and had also blinded himself and destroyed his own face in the process, and with no means to travel home having crashed then abandoned his car due to blinding himself, and no real future remaining - that someone would feel suicidal and act upon those feelings.

I hope his victims receive the best long term career and support that it is possible to provide, but sadly I don't think there is any recovery from this level of psychological trauma even before factoring in the life changing physical injuries.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow You are missing out one huge factor though. The woeful inadequacy of the Met and its dishonesty. Proved time and time again.

I think you're overlooking the fact that he didn't know that at 11pm on the day he attacked them.

You only know all that because you are writing nearly two weeks after the event, knowing that the children have been discharged from hospital.

He was on that bridge hours later. He didn't know they had survived or would survive.

I don’t believe that anyone throwing acid at a three year old child isn’t trying to kill that child. And if he’d thrown himself off a bridge into the Thames shortly after the attack he wouldn’t know that he wasn’t successful.

I wouldn't trust the Met as far as I can throw them, but it was very likely that he was dead, even before this CCTV footage emerged.

If he were alive, his burn would be in a terrible state by now. Even if he did have someone prepared to give him medication for pain, that wouldn't help treat the burn. He would need surgical debridement (removal of dead tissue) by a specialist surgeon, in an operating theatre, to survive. So he has very likely either died by suicide or from the complications of the burn by now.

I think the first point needs to be looked at with similar acid attack crimes and culture

Honestly MissLucy I couldn't give a flying w/e over whether he did/didn't. I just think it's too convenient to say it's likely to have happened. I'm out though as I'm finding this all very distasteful tbh.

I hope he is dead, but I think it's too early to call it and I'm surprised the media have.

Me too

It was the only possible outcome.

There no place in the U.K. for anyone who thinks maiming defenceless women and children is a rational way to salve his own pathetic ego. He wasn't worth the air he breathed. Let's hope his body is recovered soon.

I wish the mum and her daughters a speedy recovery.

It does seem like a leap to think he must have died. Is there cctv from the other side of the bridge? Could he not have got into a car? I thought you are covered by cctv wherever you are in London.

This surprises me. It wouldn't have surprised me if he did it a day or two after the actual incident when he realised how big a news story it was.

I'm not sorry he has killed himself but it feels unjust, in a way, for the woman he attacked

Yeah, I agree. On one hand, I'm delighted he is no longer in the world. On the other, he has cheated his victims of any form of closure from a trial.

(This is one of the reasons I believe he is dead, incidentally - someone who commits this type of crime is often too much of a narcissist to cope with being held accountable for it.)

Seems more likely than not. As soon as the CCTV image was released showing that injury to his face, people speculated that the pain of it had driven him to suicide.

If the police have footage of him pacing backwards and forwards on a bridge, which is characteristic of someone trying to reach a decision, that's quite persuasive.

Deep burns aren't painful though because all the nerve endings that enable you to feel pain are destroyed.