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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival

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NorthernIrishFeminist · 23/01/2024 14:58

Employers seem to be slow learners when it comes to women's rights! There’s another employment tribunal case being brought by a woman who attended and took the microphone at a Let Women Speak event in Belfast last year and has been treated very badly by her employer Belfast Film Festival as a result.

Looks like we’re going to have to keep gardening until they get the message.

disclaimer. I don’t know Sara and have no connection to BFF I’m just a woman who likes donating to causes that make a difference

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KittyWilkinson · 14/11/2025 09:35

WandaSiri · 14/11/2025 09:28

KittyWilkinson
What sort of press? I have been trying to imagine what that phrase means and have got nowhere.

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It's a kind of storage cupboard. Originally (I think ) used to keep linen in, but used nowadays to keep all sorts of things in. At least my family do, who live in Tyrone.
Edited to add: Big family in old social housing with not much room for storing things.

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2025 09:40

KittyWilkinson · 14/11/2025 09:35

It's a kind of storage cupboard. Originally (I think ) used to keep linen in, but used nowadays to keep all sorts of things in. At least my family do, who live in Tyrone.
Edited to add: Big family in old social housing with not much room for storing things.

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Yes, 'press' means cupboard in my part of NI too i.e the hotpress, the kitchen press/presses.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 14/11/2025 09:43

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2025 09:40

Yes, 'press' means cupboard in my part of NI too i.e the hotpress, the kitchen press/presses.

What's the etymology of it, does anyone know?

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2025 09:47

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 14/11/2025 09:43

What's the etymology of it, does anyone know?

I think it's a loanword from the English used during and after the Plantation of Ulster that has survived in various Hiberno-English dialects around Ireland.

Edited to add: https://irishenglishisms.home.blog/2018/08/24/a-skeleton-in-the-press/

Scout2016 · 14/11/2025 09:48

@NoBinturongsHereMate and @YouCantProveIt thank you for the fascinating insights

Queenage · 14/11/2025 09:50

I knew it to come from French presse which is pressing chest as linens were packed tightly in it. It was used in England to mean cupboard and then became less common but was retained in Ireland. My dad still calls the airing cupboard the hot press even though there’s no immersion heater in there any more. It’s like the word Yoke where it’s gone from England but still in Ireland I think.

Conxis · 14/11/2025 09:51

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2025 09:40

Yes, 'press' means cupboard in my part of NI too i.e the hotpress, the kitchen press/presses.

My Scottish grandmothers called a cupboard the “press”.
You don’t hear used it in Scotland now though

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 14/11/2025 09:52

Very interesting, thank you @UtopiaPlanitia and* *@Queenage !

Tallisker · 14/11/2025 09:54

Some flats for sale in Edinburgh have Edinburgh presses - mine was a shallow shelved cupboard set into the wall (very useful storage)

SionnachRuadh · 14/11/2025 09:55

See, I would never think of keeping my toaster in the press, though on rainy days I might dry my socks on the George Formby grill.

EdithStourton · 14/11/2025 09:56

The term 'linen press' is still used in the English antiques trade.

Tallisker · 14/11/2025 09:56

This has an Edinburgh press.

Have a look at this great property I found on ESPC - 9/5 Woodburn Terrace, Morningside, Edinburgh, EH10 4SH
https://espc.com/property/36347497

WandaSiri · 14/11/2025 10:01

Thanks to everyone for the explanation about keeping the toaster in a press. I was thinking about a Corby Trouser Press and wondering how on earth that would work. 😆
But now you mention it, I do recall the use of "linen press" though I was pretty vague about what that meant.

I love built-in cupboards. Just adore them.

Largesso · 14/11/2025 10:03

Szygy · 14/11/2025 09:29

Great post, @Largesso, thank you. That really nails the background to the 'yes, we definitely DID plan all this great stuff and we so DO have documentation, loads of it, I just can’t quite find it at the moment but I can categorically say it’s somewhere, and it’s all your fault I’m not allowed to speak to colleagues to check, and no I can’t explain how those emails came to be on my computer' business. It’s gripping stuff.

(As a side-note, I’m occasionally tangentially involved with a 'public-facing event' and the level of planning and organisation needed is roughly equivalent to what’s required to govern a small country, so my eyebrows were also in my hairline reading about the beanbags etc)

Thanks. I think the email itself is the fullest give away at all given how it is so problematic to ask groups for suggestions anyway let alone last minute. It can only have been considered as a means to agitate, there’s no way someone as ‘busy’ as Michele would set themselves up to fail in this way. She ain’t new to the game. What’s interesting in their replies is that none of them
mention ideas for film at all, even in passing. Given all of them have a responsibility to engage why did not of them suggest it might be a great opportunity to educate (force team 😆). It could be a great opportunity to a show a film demonstrating solidarity with women’s issues, for example. This sense that it is impossible to touch anything Sara has touched wholly contradicts what should be their guiding principles and gives me
more of a whiff of preplanning ie that before she sent the email shes called the folk she knows in these groups and requested they respond in that way.

KittyWilkinson · 14/11/2025 10:03

I do love these asides on the Tribunal threads. Now I know more about the origins of presses. To go with my fondness in later life, for egg and onion sandwiches, and endless varieties of traybakes.

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 10:04

UtopiaPlanitia · 14/11/2025 09:47

I think it's a loanword from the English used during and after the Plantation of Ulster that has survived in various Hiberno-English dialects around Ireland.

Edited to add: https://irishenglishisms.home.blog/2018/08/24/a-skeleton-in-the-press/

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Thank you Utopia- dead on😀

'Press' is Hiberno-English for 'cupboard', it's not just in Ulster.
I spent years being looked at funny in England for saying 'press' and after years in England I've spent years being looked at funny in Ireland for saying 'cupboard'😏
Hiberno-English has elements which were present in English at the time when the English language started being imposed on Ireland big time, ie. around the 17th century, so there are words and grammar from that era which have disappeared from modern English-English but are preserved in Hiberno-English.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 14/11/2025 10:06

Tallisker · 14/11/2025 09:54

Some flats for sale in Edinburgh have Edinburgh presses - mine was a shallow shelved cupboard set into the wall (very useful storage)

Was just coming on here to say this exact thing!

InvisibleDragon · 14/11/2025 10:06

Just want to say a huge thank you to @MyrtleLion for all the work across multiple tribunals getting the info from Twitter and keeping everything updated!!

I've been dipping in and out of the threads whilst dealing with a new baby (and toddler) and am astonished at the absolutely batshit stuff going on.

This one reminds me of Les Mains Sales:
MD - I didn't throw Sara to the wolves then. I'm doing it now, and myself too.

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 10:11

around the 17th century, so there are words and grammar from that era which have disappeared from modern English-English but are preserved in Hiberno-English.

That reminds me of the lines

Years hence, in rustic speech a phrase
As in rough earth, a Grecian vase.
[Padraic Colum - A Poor Scholar Of The 'Forties]

which is actually about the hedge schools where Latin and Greek were taught, but it reminds me of the occasional 'find' of a lost English word in Hiberno-EnglishSmile

BendoftheBeginning · 14/11/2025 10:22

SionnachRuadh · 14/11/2025 09:55

See, I would never think of keeping my toaster in the press, though on rainy days I might dry my socks on the George Formby grill.

That’s it, I’m on the floor!

borntobequiet · 14/11/2025 10:23

I think freestanding wardrobes are a fairly recent invention and previously clothes would have been kept in presses rather than on hangers (but most people would have had relatively few clothes anyway).

I live in a 400 year old building and my “wardrobe” is in fact an attic room.

Presumably a cupboard was where cups were originally stored? Though names of things and their spellings can be misleading.

Szygy · 14/11/2025 10:23

Tallisker · 14/11/2025 09:56

This has an Edinburgh press.

Have a look at this great property I found on ESPC - 9/5 Woodburn Terrace, Morningside, Edinburgh, EH10 4SH
https://espc.com/property/36347497

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That’s a lovely flat, but I would have to love it because they have my bedroom curtains in their living room! Clearly people of good taste 😂😂

SionnachRuadh · 14/11/2025 10:24

MarieDeGournay · 14/11/2025 10:11

around the 17th century, so there are words and grammar from that era which have disappeared from modern English-English but are preserved in Hiberno-English.

That reminds me of the lines

Years hence, in rustic speech a phrase
As in rough earth, a Grecian vase.
[Padraic Colum - A Poor Scholar Of The 'Forties]

which is actually about the hedge schools where Latin and Greek were taught, but it reminds me of the occasional 'find' of a lost English word in Hiberno-EnglishSmile

I get this often in the summer when I tell English friends that I can't thole the heat 😀

NoBinturongsHereMate · 14/11/2025 11:26

Presumably a cupboard was where cups were originally stored?

Yes, a board (shelf/table) for cups and general crockery. Doors were added later. See also 'sideboard' and 'bed & board' - in the latter the 'board' was the table food was served at.

MyrtleLion · 14/11/2025 11:38

I'm aware that court will sit from 1130 but Nick hasn't posted yet.

I'll be here when he does.

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