Rachel Meade - it's a win!

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We can't afford to do that.

Stonewall is not legally liable for its advice if I understand previous cases correctly.

It's on the organisations' own benighted heads if they choose to outsource their thinking to Stonewall but Stonewall is like Teflon.

As pleased as I am, this does nothing to extirpate all the staff in captured organisations who are quietly making the policies and changes that will stitch women up for decades.

Mentioning 'bundles' three times in succession is believed to cause a remanisfestation.

I belive it has to be said three times, at midnight, in front of a mirror. Go on, I dare you.

I'm tempted. He's got a lovely speaking voice. He could read me a bedtime story.

Just noticed, 'remanifestation', pun not intended.

Congratulations Rachel and thank you to everyone who supported her in this.

No need for faffing about in front of mirrors at midnight, just post this 3 times and wait....

Thanks Loobijee for the excerpts.

We can't afford to do that.

We can’t afford not to. Even when I haven’t had much spare, I’ve given what I can and look at the difference that Forstater, Bailey etc have had.

All the time that these cases are necessary, I will continue to contribute to them.

Revisiting Naomi Cunningham's blog post

https://www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/02/01/submission-and-compliance/

Despite my inherent scepticism, I would be interested in opinions on how much longer it will be acceptable for organisations to subscribe to Stonewall's WEI, their Diversity Champion schemes etc. Or, will it be like post-Cass and the uptick in the use of PBs, will acolytes double down to prove their loyalty. (See also the work of Lifton, Cialdini and other social psychologists for discussion of similar phenomena.)

Specifically, as others have mentioned, for how much longer can public institutions and tax-payer funded organisations mandate or tolerate pronoun declaration in sig files given that it is such a public, political statement?

Good news!

@RethinkingLife well the ruling is clear they can not anymore, end of.

Can you elaborate?

E.g., when should NHS, Civil Service depts. etc. instruct their IT depts to remove these from the sig. files? Should publicly funded organisations that arrange webinars and conferences act with alacrity to stop mandating that registrants have to declare pronouns etc.

I'm irritated it's that trite but they're the most obvious examples.

Agree.

I think there is misunderstanding about what "we" can afford.

All those small individual donations of £2 or £5 add up.

You don't have to throw £50 or more into the pot to make a difference.

This is a numbers game of who really gives a shit and the relevant number isn't how much you donate but how many people women do.

After each case we think "this should be it" but I don't think we are there yet.

This judgement is a fantastic win but there are still far too many people in positions of influence peddling ideology over biology reality and importantly the law.

Then there are others who are just idle in keeping up with legal precedence.

So I'll bet we will see more and more cases before the lesson sinks in but for public bodies spending taxpayers money I think this will come sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I'm with you. While these cases need to be funded, I will have another dig down the back of the sofa. There is always a little bit more that can be found.

Well they are hardly going to be fair and impartial or indeed take a balanced, non ideological view are they, so I would question their suitability for the role they have at Sport England.

Sideways is your username a play on reverse ferret or am I looking for feminist meaning where there isn't any?

Absolutely fantastic news. So happy for Rachel and for all of us. Congratulations and heartfelt thanks to her and her team for this significant win.

It just shows how well no debate worked. This needs more publicity though, we need this sent out to all hr and edi of schools, civil service, moj, etc etc.
I don't know why the sunlight is nit spreading far enough, maybe as we are ahead of the rest of the developed world on this, but we are getting somewhere.
USA on the other hand, wtf?

It would be good to get people like Penny Mordaunt and Yvette Cooper to come back from their twaw positions. These two are very powerful within their parties, but both have family members affected.

Lisa Nandy too. I used to love her, but apparently she's an idiot. What's her view now on these cases? I know she said she was blinded by a teen trans constituent but has she gone all the way?
What about jess Phillips? She was twaw but sunlight and facts appear to be working with her?
God knows we need high profile labour women who will get cabinet positions to be gc if labour are in by the end of the year so let's make sure that they know about all of these cases.

Great news 👏👏👏👏

Well the word prozelytise (Trying to change a religious, or other belief) was clearly stated as a no no in the ruling.

So an employer can not insist on any level of compliance with any type of value or activity that offends your right to be gender critical and bloody well say so.

So after a few weeks of digesting this, public sector employers are gonna have to change all their policies that compel you to agree with gender ideology.

you will be free( give it a bit) to say err no, not doing it.

Well you'd hope that might happen after the no rape for a year, oops here it is on cctv incident but nope. So I won't hold my breath.

Well if your head of EDI is a full on TRA as a hypothetical example do you think they are going to be proactive in informing the wider leadership teams of such developments?

Especially if they have spent most of their tenure implementing Stonewall law....

Or are they going to start polishing their turd CV and get the hell out of Dodge?

Leaving lots of organisations utterly clueless they are left with a tranche of ticking time bomb policies and training contracts.

This is an issue many years in the making. Reviewing/overhauling significant chunks of HR policy/contracts/department culture can't happen overnight, even if there is a will to do so.

Thank you, Rachel. I hope you are awarded a huge payout. I'm so angry that people (mostly women) are being dragged through the legal system by the gender extremists. But each win builds on the last and weakens their stranglehold. More sunlight!

So happy for Rachel and this is so important for child safeguarding and social workers! Congratulations Rachel you brave queen!!!