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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Billy Bragg having a dig at Mumsnet

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Jeanhatchet · 09/01/2024 09:43

In case you didn't see .... Billy is policing you now... x.com/billybragg/status/1744326814506373493?s=46&t=tKDDG0UDNu3hHymifhbG1w

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WarriorN · 09/01/2024 16:36

I've confused Bragg with Tatchell (occupy similar spaces in my men who don't care about women lobe)

Also because Julie Bindel always calls them both out...

PronounssheRa · 09/01/2024 16:47

Is this Barton bloke an actual transphobe then? Obvs he’s a sexist but so is Billy Bragg so that’s not gonna bother Billy…

No idea, but for those who don't know who barton is, the the first thing that always comes to mind is his brother, who was convicted of killing anthony walker. Now, he shouldn't be judged on his brothers actions but he should be judged on what he said about it. The latest barton musings on this are particularly awful. https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-12-01/joey-barton-slammed-for-calling-brothers-murder-of-teen-a-scrap

It's interesting that braggs obsession with all things trans has led him to overlook Bartons other behaviour, like minimising the murder of a teenager, or stubbing a cigarette out on a youth team players face, or hitting another player so hard it led to a detached retina ........... there is a lot more, his Wikipedia is a grim read.

Using barton as a gotcha against feminist is just the most bizarre thing to do

InShockHusbandLeaving · 09/01/2024 16:50

Besides being a misogynist prick the thing that most amazes me about the singer Billy Bragg is that he can’t reliably hit a note, any note 😆 I saw him live years ago and he was the most crap act I’ve ever had the displeasure to watch. Fortunately, I’d not paid or I’d have wanted my money back, plus extra for the distress caused by hearing so many bum notes. I left after he’d murdered the second song and repaired to the nearest pub to calm down my bleeding ear drums.

Sadly, he’s no more talented at his new career of insulting women is he? His activism is definitely on a par with his musicality. Nul points, you absolute arse of a man.

Brefugee · 09/01/2024 16:52

i saw Bragg 5 years ago and he was pretty good, if you like that sort of thing.

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 09/01/2024 17:05

Man's an idiot

Great comments by mnhq

NotTerfNorCis · 09/01/2024 17:05

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LoobiJee · 09/01/2024 17:13

Beowulfa · 09/01/2024 09:49

Looking forward to seeing Billy's immensely successful website Leftiesnet, where old irrelevant socialists gather to discuss the imminent revolution, and high end Dorset property values.

Brilliant!

🤣🤣🤣

RethinkingLife · 09/01/2024 17:15

Using barton as a gotcha against feminist is just the most bizarre thing to do

Billy Bragg the bricoleur
Exploits a troll (he don't care)
Anti-Mumsnet is his beat
Chauvinism tastes so sweet

I'm tempted to branch out into whether BB realises that he's straying far from the path Justice Julian Knowles outlined when he declared (in re: Miller): “In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society."

Yet, here BB is. Monitoring MN to find material for disapproval and witch-finding. Labelling MN as Nazi while refusing to link, using dubious screenshots, and positively encouraging an Orwellian society and his own persona Cheka and Stasi-like reporting mechanisms. (I'm thinking of the infamous claim that 1 in 6 people in East Germany were reporting on their neighbours. Some say it was 1 in 60. However, it seems the Stasi had files on 5.6M people.)

It's bad enough that BB is so blinded by his cognitive biases he actively deceives himself but to mislead his followers…

We live in remarkable times.

Waitwhat23 · 09/01/2024 17:17

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He seems to take pride in it. It's very, very odd behaviour.

Billy Bragg having a dig at Mumsnet
FictionalCharacter · 09/01/2024 17:17

Excellent response by MN

Billy Bragg having a dig at Mumsnet
Datun · 09/01/2024 17:25

'Woman hating lickspittle cunt'.

🤣🤣🤣

If he goes any time soon, that is definitely going to be in an obit somewhere.

Hell, if he's before me, I'll write it myself.

Jeanhatchet · 09/01/2024 17:27

"So a footballer is an arsehole and therefore Mumsnet are Nazis. XL Billy needs to walk me through his thinking process, here" this is so funny @ArabellaScott

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/01/2024 17:33

Or maybe he did. And they told him. And added a friendly 'go well', just for a good measure!

I do hope so!

LoobiJee · 09/01/2024 17:37

PronounssheRa · 09/01/2024 16:47

Is this Barton bloke an actual transphobe then? Obvs he’s a sexist but so is Billy Bragg so that’s not gonna bother Billy…

No idea, but for those who don't know who barton is, the the first thing that always comes to mind is his brother, who was convicted of killing anthony walker. Now, he shouldn't be judged on his brothers actions but he should be judged on what he said about it. The latest barton musings on this are particularly awful. https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-12-01/joey-barton-slammed-for-calling-brothers-murder-of-teen-a-scrap

It's interesting that braggs obsession with all things trans has led him to overlook Bartons other behaviour, like minimising the murder of a teenager, or stubbing a cigarette out on a youth team players face, or hitting another player so hard it led to a detached retina ........... there is a lot more, his Wikipedia is a grim read.

Using barton as a gotcha against feminist is just the most bizarre thing to do

I’d never heard of Joey Barton before reading this thread.

The information in that link is utterly appalling. Talking about the brutal racist murder of a teenager as if the worst thing about the murder was that his convicted racist murderer brother actually ended up in prison for it.

And Billy Bragg is so obsessed with campaigning on behalf of males who want access to women and girls in a state of undress that his “gotcha” to MNHQ wasn’t to ask if mumsnetters had condemned Barton for minimising the racist murder of a teenage, but to ask if anyone had called Barton transphobic. Bragg needs to have a word with himself.

TheClogLady · 09/01/2024 17:41

Datun · 09/01/2024 17:25

'Woman hating lickspittle cunt'.

🤣🤣🤣

If he goes any time soon, that is definitely going to be in an obit somewhere.

Hell, if he's before me, I'll write it myself.

No offence, Dat but I can’t read that many BB obituaries, so I shall
save myself for those written by the Julies Burchill & Bindel plus Brendan O’Neill.

TheMarzipanDildoWithTinselDisguise · 09/01/2024 17:44

TheClogLady · 09/01/2024 15:53

Is this Barton bloke an actual transphobe then? Obvs he’s a sexist but so is Billy Bragg so that’s not gonna bother Billy…

Decrying women who want to preserve women’s single sex spaces, sports and services as transphobes makes it harder to spot the actual transphobes and I don’t follow all the utterances of random former footballers so 🤷‍♀️

Yes, I would say Barton is an actual transphobe, and the rest. He’s just a knob, there’s no critical thinking (and definitely no feminism) behind the shit he’s spouting.

fedupandstuck · 09/01/2024 17:46

Barton is pretty much an everything-phobe. If you're not a white man of the same mould as him then he's not interested. He's a very angry damaged man.

Cattenberg · 09/01/2024 17:52

Here’s what I think happened. A few anti-GC people would create troll threads to try to discredit Mumsnet, then screenshot them immediately before they were deleted.

They would then send the screenshots to any of a handful of anti-GC Twitter accounts with large followings, who would obligingly tweet them.

The same anti-GC accounts would also tweet screenshots from other Mumsnet threads. These were invariably small snippets taken out of context. For example, there might be a sarcastic comment from a thread about feminism, a lone troll post from anywhere, or a rare anti-vaxx comment from an overwhelmingly pro-vaxx thread.

These snippets would sometimes be presented as “Mumsnet thinks” and the tweeter would usually write a “correction”, which either insulted the person quoted, or referred to them condescendingly as “Madam”, “pet” or “oh Sharon dear”.

Funnily enough, I never once saw a link to the thread the quote came from. Either the anti-GC tweeters never saw the threads, or they were acting in bad faith. I wouldn’t like to guess.

RethinkingLife · 09/01/2024 17:57

A few anti-GC people would create troll threads to try to discredit Mumsnet, then screenshot them immediately before they were deleted.

Who was the numpty (username something like '? from Manchester') who did that and got caught out because it was obvious from his screenshot and the colour of his post that he was the poster?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/01/2024 17:58

He used to post in Times comments too. "DisgustedofManchester" I think.

LizzieSiddal · 09/01/2024 18:01

I know someone who had the “pleasure” of working with him recently. She said he’s an absolute dick.

RedToothBrush · 09/01/2024 18:08

Toseland · 09/01/2024 10:34

So he follows Mumsnet more closely than I do as I missed that thread! He must know all the issues then and can't claim ignorance.

This!

And bloody hell I'm on here a lot!

I wonder if he's a previously banned poster for trolling or not posting in the spirit of the site!

WarriorN · 09/01/2024 18:10

XL Billy 😂

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