Lib Dem's wondering where their members went

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I just got this email from the membership officer of our local Lib Dem party.

I’ve been looking at our membership data for the last 4 year, and I’ve noticed a steady decline in our membership, and I understand that you were all once members during that time, but have since lapsed, or resigned.

You will all have different, perfectly good reasons for lapsing your memberships, but I’ve been asked by the Exec committee to understand what the main reasons are.

Hmm...what could it be causing people to leave? It's a head scratcher for sure.

Yes if you read A Very English Scandal by John Preston it's all there. Liberal in many senses of the word.

But then I've never been libdem. Always promising paradise with them and then, when they did get a sniff of power, all their high ideals went "pfft".

You can promise the earth to voters if you know you won’t get elected.

Then, saying they actively don’t want you to support them if you’re not TWAW shows that they are, as you thought, absolute clowns.

Jo Swinson : Pansexual = desperate

The Libdems had a chance after 2015 to lick their wounds and come back stronger.
Instead they took gender drug money and disappeared up their own fundament.

The Green Party used to be about climate change and living a sustainable life
now they obsess about drugging children and borrowing Aimee Challenor from the Libdems

The Tories are a broad church - they take anybody who pays (from Kemi B to Caroline N)

Labour were critically injured by the Corbynites driving moderates out of local parties under the watchful eye of Lily Madigan

Yes, and Aimee Challoner. And now Ed Davy has fucked up with the post office debacle. They are strange people.

I think you'll find Ms Pansexual was Layla Moran, not Jo Swinson.

Jo Swinson is a humanist with a peanut allergy – not the same thing.

Ed Davey was last a minister 9 years ago.
HE is not to blame for the way the Post Office has conducted itself since then.

Horizon started in 1998
Ed Davey was not a minister for the first 12 years of the debacle

The mud flingers are having fun but this is NOT an Ed Davey problem

When a political party shows you who they are believe them and all that.
(Not forgetting the current government who appear to be heading for a world record of sexually abusive MPs).

Good point about Tim Farron. I wonder looking back if there was more to it. Purge anyone who might not roll over or who has morals and ethics so then you can spread whatever weird nonsense you want.

Oh do fuck off. He was minister at the crucial time when anyone with half a brain could have stopped this. This fell under his remit and he was responsible. He asked no difficult questions and lapped up the assurances given. The Post Office were green lighted to carry on their persecutions. Not unsurprising as anyone who parrots TWAW has no critical thinking skills. He was followed in the role by Jo Swinson another intellectual pigmy who also did nothing.

According to the Telegraph:

Davey was later hired as a political consultant by top law firm Herbert Smith Freehills, which was acting for – guess who? – the Post Office! He was paid £833 per hour, amassing a grand total of £225,00.

Well that's alright then.

Whoever it was who said that she was in his constituency, it looks like there might be an alternative candidate.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/10/postmistress-election-challenge-ed-davey-post-office-scanda/

And he knew what was going on, there's written evidence to that effect.

Lib Dem for women have a good webinar series. I think they should put these women in charge.

Elaine Miller’s on x talking to Alison Jenner
on 15th https://x.com/libvoice4women/status/1743410714658636100?s=46

VoldeMortlake · Yesterday 14:35

Astridspuzzle · Yesterday 13:59

+ + Just say your Lib Dem vote has transitioned and now identifies with another party + +

Ha ha, brilliant.

Yup, I think that wins the thread!

I voted for them after Blair decided to invade Iraq, but their boot-licking ways and student fees rubbish made me decide that they could piss off. I definitely wouldn't vote for them now.

And if they ever are in charge, I might consider voting Lib Dem.

Until then...

Yes, this is a good point, unless their privacy notice said they keep it for a set period beyond membership ending

Exactly this.

I had a Lib Dem candidate knock on my door. His opening line was “Hello I’m your Lib Dem we are going to get the Tories out” ( very Conservative area). He saw my face and said “ if that’s what you want” and “ I said well unfortunately your party doesn’t know what a woman is”. He looked a bit cross and said “you never asked what my views on that are” but then stomped off straight away, not actually willing to tell me what they might be or put forward any rationale.

I used to vote Lib Dem, for about 20 years. I saw what happened with tuition fees as a necessary bit of realpolitik, part of the compromises needed to be in power.

I emailed all the main party candidates in my constituency at the last election, asking for their view on single sex spaces. Only the Tory replied.

I suspect the Labour and Lib Dem candidates are too scared of this topic to even respond, let alone engage with the issues. I can’t elect someone like that. It shows they are too scared to even state their party’s view, let alone having the courage to state their own view. That shows me that they wouldn’t be a good local MP.

We’re a marginal where Lib Dems could win next time. They could really do with my vote.

Even if individual candidates aren't TWAW (1) the party clearly is so your vote will be taken as an endorsement of that (2) the candidate will do what LDs do which is say what you want to hear to get elected then change their mind (3) the lack of intellectual curiosity on this matter and demonisation of objectors has revealed a cruel and stupid streak which won't be easily forgotten or routed out. They have watered down their credibility to homeopathy levels.

Apparently the local groups are going to receive funding on a sort of 'pay by results' system, based on members recruited, leaflets delivered etc which may be why their first port of call is known ex-members.

They’re clinging on in some areas of local government. Where I live usually has Lib Dem councillors. But that even feels locally as complacency - and just the Lib Dem’s being neither Labour nor the Tories, particularly Labour (as it’s a Labour council and very much a Labour parliamentary constituency). There’s no local sense that anyone believes the Lib Dems stand for anything important. They’re like a placeholder.

That seems to be the case in Durham (I don't live in Durham but nearish and know a Lib Dem councillor), bouyed up somewhat by the student population, apparently.

But he refused to meet with Alan Bates or answer any of his letters. He is to blame for that.

nowthelighthasgone · Today 07:05

Yes, this is a good point, unless their privacy notice said they keep it for a set period beyond membership ending

Have they set it to end at the heat death of the universe?

Till hell freezes over, or the LibDems form a government - whichever happens sooner.

He subsequently went on to take hundreds of thousands from the law firm that acted for the PO against the post masters / mistresses. Presumably for "services rendered" when he was ignoring their pleas for help? That in itself speaks to his lack of ethics and moral code.

Thanks for clarifying

Layla Moran is also the MP whose answer to the problem of women not knowing which men are safe is that she could see into their souls.

"I see someone in their soul and as a person. I do not really care whether they have a male body."