What do you think should happen to the Gender Recognition Act (GRA)?

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Personally, I can't believe this act was ever passed! I know 2004 was a different time, but still!

I believe that the only way of moving past the gender madness in law is to revoke the GRA. "Gender" is about as useful as someone's favorite type of music, so it has no place on a legal document.

As for what should happen to those who already have a GRA... well, I think some of them are owed an apology by those who told them that this piece of paper would change their sex (which it doesn't).

What do others think?

I don’t no now shame

I men I don’t know no shame

Bugger need to stop

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Don't worry Karen. Us women have a lot to shoulder being solely responsible for the political outcomes in different countries as well as being responsible for soothing creepy men's feelings. It's a lot to take on.

Plus watching when cruises go wrong, and musing about posts about horrid teenagers, thinking I was there once, just ignored them until they grew out of it.

as well as getting excited cos I have discovered how to quote, and find and post gifs

all went horribly wrong so send all your shame to me

sipping a gin now ahhhh…..

How did you know what I'm wearing? Can i pass on the sackcloth my skins dry enough at this time of year without having to deal with additional chafing.

I suspect that's not the first gin of the evening either judging by your above posts!

@Boiledbeetle shit caught out can i have your sack cloth please

Sure, its very stylish! But very itchy.

2.45 am and all is dismal. I'm sorry for everything, the things we woman are and will be responsible for, the guilt weighs so so heavily, it feels like a crushing weight on my chest. How will I live with this eating away at the very core of my very guilty being. Oh woe is me.

Right better get a quick cuppa then on with some self flagellation and then some more mournful repenting. It's going to be a busy shift. I'll try to keep the wailing to short semi quiet outbursts on the hour during the striking of the town clock.

Limbers up for next round of the mournful wailing and self flagellation, last of the evening for me at 4am as the next time the clock strikes the hour after that my shift will be over. Woo hoo zzzzzzzz

Great so still here worrying as my shift replacement has yet to turn up! More angst for me! Gosh did I cause something to happen to them because I was wishing my shift away! No!!! Which mumsnetter did I break?

Thank you for your service boiled. I'm here to take the morning shift. You go have a cuppa (all that remorseful wailing you must be parched) I'll see if I can find out who you broke.

Aww shit boiled, I heard the thumping noises this morning (I really thought it was next door bumping uglies) but I turned over and went back to sleep for a bit.

My bad, <<<<holds hands out in despair for some pain killers>>>>
Lucky cranky was around to take up the morning shift.

Are we still guilty for not letting men in our spaces yes?

Cheers cranky, I'm ready when you are to swap.

Good job everyone

I couldn’t sleep, unusually, and dd is having a lie in. Typical!

Sorry, everyone, got the wrong end of the stick and slept right through like a baby.

I'll do some extra penance to make up for it.

After a cup of tea.

And maybe breakfast. Penancing is hard on an empty stomach.

Wrong end of the stick? No one told me that we were supposed to have a penance stick! I've just wasted two hours on stickless penancing! Does it still count?

Penitence Yoga Group starts in five.

Cant you just identify as doing penancing with a stick. Or I dunno make your sock identify as a stick therefore you were not stickless penancing. Or something.

Make it convoluted, sound very sure of yourself, and nod sagely if anyone asks about a stick or the good Friday agreement or anything really.

Can I stick it to the man?

What's with all this penance? Don't you realise that you're excluding the no-fucks-left-to-givers? And don't you call me a penanceophobe, you, you, you, you penanceophiliac, you!

Oh, god, now I feel even worser.

When did we agree this as a society?
Probably with the passing of the GRA officially. There’s similar in most of the western world.
Perhaps not everyone agrees but they don’t have to. You could say that we agreed gay marriage is acceptable as a society, bot not everyone voted for it.

A women with a mastectomy is still a women regardless of the reasons, same if a man has is testicles removed.

There is such a huge difference between a woman who has a mastectomy because of cancer, and a trans man who has a mastectomy because he doesn’t want to have breasts and is actually psychologically more comfortable and functional with a completely flat chest. The tm wants to be seen as a man.
Really, what’s the point in comparing these two? Why even ask the question? It’s pointless.

Does any man without testicles get to hide their sex, or just the ones doing it for gender reasons?

I don't agree with the narrative that you’re constructing around trans people. “Hiding”. Implying they’re deceptive and fraudulent. Clearly there’s a difference between someone who modified their body as part of a treatment that supports them to live as much as possible as the sex they wish to be seen as, and someone who is “without testicles” for other reasons.

You’re comparing apples with oranges. Or apples with tinned pineapples. What’s the point? It doesn’t move the arguments forward In any constructive way.

Probably with the passing of the GRA officially. There’s similar in most of the western world.

The great thing is we can push for change. Women have done it before, sadly it looks like it’ll take the same again.

I don't agree with the narrative that you’re constructing around trans people. “Hiding”. Implying they’re deceptive and fraudulent. Clearly there’s a difference between someone who modified their body as part of a treatment that supports them to live as much as possible as the sex they wish to be seen as, and someone who is “without testicles” for other reasons.

So you think the 'sex by deception' law should be repealed?