Labour MP Nadia Whittome

[MotherEarthisaTerf]

https://www.huckmag.com/article/nadia-whittome-mp-bimini-bon-boulash-interview-conversation-transphobia-dalston-superstore

Plenty of queer people are also female (including Nadia) and have female specific needs. One of the problems of this language is the elimination of discussion of those needs as a common factor.

This - I'm a floating voter center left there should be no way voting Tory at minute should even be on my radar as something to possibly consider.

I will vote but I'm really hoping an independent stands.

I used to be a member of the Labour party - around the Ed Balls, Andy Burnham, Ed Milliband days.

I voted Tory at the last election which would have my father rolling in his grave.

The point relevant here is how actually disgusting a lot of left wing hardcore labour voters are, despite how they try and portray themselves as the ones who care about All the People.

Big wow, I voted Tory. Who cares? So did half the country! Yet, somehow this is a legitimate reason to call me a bigot, racist, thicko, nazi, murderer, transphobe (that might be a bit right) and any other revolting slur that can possibly be thrown at you. Yet, what I am is a small c conservative who values family, culture and being a good citizen.

I urge people to do a test with their friends and tell them you are considering voting Tory at the next election, just to see what I mean. You really see a different side to the 'caring' party members - you see exactly what NW is doing in this article - closed minded arrogance and smugness while simultaneously attacking your very being without any recognition of the hypocrisy and irony. I am starting to think that Labour see the 'poor and vulnerable' as their cash crop for power and virtue and have no intention of resolving issues.

Labour have no extra funds. All that is left is yelling bigot and transphobe at people to differentiate.

Re education is very far from the ‘liberal left’, whenever that left the building.

I am starting to think that Labour see the 'poor and vulnerable' as their cash crop for power and virtue and have no intention of resolving issues.

Sadly I think you’re right

I'm afraid this does ring true. I'm not sure how they're going to cope being in power, tbh, when their whole narrative is attacking the Tories. It's exactly the same tactic the SNP use - their every failure held up as proof of how awful Westminster is.

I never claimed I did, but equally neither do you.

I think her heart is in the right place, but she hasn't thought deeply enough about some of the issues she champions. She's young and zealous, it's understandable really.

Sometimes this works and sometimes this doesn't. Like her decision to take only the average salary for her constituency and donate the rest of her income to local charities is one I highly respect.

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I think her heart is in the right place

But only if constituents agree with her! And frankly saying ‘her heart is in the right place’ doesn’t cut any ice when it comes to child safeguarding failures, respecting women’s right to define themselves and women’s right to privacy and dignity

Someone heart is never in the right place if they can glibly dismiss the safeguarding of women and children.

To those who think she's a good MP: can you point out one thing she's done (actions, not words) for her constituency? I'm genuinely curious.

Not thinking deeply enough about many of these issues is more a rule among politicians and many public intellectuals than the exception. I have tried to understand why this is the case, but don't have good answers.

It might be that politics really is emotion-driven, in which case critical thought is of little value, except in the narrow instrumental sense of trying to justify a conclusion already emotionally arrived at (like picking only some studies which support one's issue, none of the ones which do not).

Or in this particular case it might have something to do with the covert but common view that women's rights don't actually matter very much or that women are just expected to go along and be kind, especially as many of us now have no party to vote for so must choose the lesser of two evils.

She was on a three part radio 4 series by Rory Stewart on the history and importance of debate to democracy.

She was very much no debate on a lot of things. The whole programme illustrated how important free speech and debate was as a found g principle of democracy. So she sounded rather silly.

Well this comedy sketch she did was great.

https://twitter.com/OkBiology/status/1615888723425562626

Well I suppose it has a certain Cunk-ish charm. 😃

''Being racist is not about what you look like or where you're from''

You tell 'em, Nads!

It all makes sense now.

She's an idiot.

sex is immutable and unchangeable and should always be the basis of law and policy compared with gender

It's neither minority, nor a viewpoint; it's an irrefutable biomedical fact and a majority of people understand it perfectly well.

Nads speaks of the need for re-education, but in her case, it seems that she needs primary education, because she missed the actual facts first time round. It's really quite chilling that she wants to shut people up, have them indoctrinated and if they won't spout the illogical, dishonest, anti-scientific rubbish she wants, that they should be expelled from the party.

If she does manage that, she's an incipient lost lawsuit.

Well this comedy sketch she did was great.

https://twitter.com/OkBiology/status/1615888723425562626

Aw bless, you can see the moment the penny drops and she backs away slowly

"There’s this whole idea of the sexualisation of drag and that we’re trying to indoctrinate children"

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"Growing up, I always thought that progress was linear. We saw Paul O’Grady on our screen as Lily Savage, Nadia winning Big Brother in 2004 as an out and proud trans woman. "

This was before the all-out assault on the very concept of biological woman became plain, Nadia. Before the attempt to upend objective fact and blur the proper boundaries between adult stuff and kids stuff. Before TRAs hammering on the windows while a group of women attempt to hold a meeting.

That picture, wtf. This is what we're up against.

Regarding the thread, I do think lesbians are very pro twaw in general. Not sure why really, the ones I know would never date a transwoman in a million years.