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Donovan Cleckley article - Gender Affirming Care is the New Conversion Therapy (Fairer Disputations.org - Dec 2023)

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UtopiaPlanitia · 16/12/2023 19:06

Donovan is generally an excellent writer on the subject of gender ideology (I always enjoy hearing him on podcasts) but I think his latest article is particularly insightful:

https://fairerdisputations.org/gender-affirming-care-is-the-new-conversion-therapy/

'Half a century after Jorgensen fell prey to unscrupulous medical practitioners, the same pattern continues to repeat itself. Homosexual self-hatred remains unexplored in cases of gay men who believe they will be better off as “straight women.” This view denigrates both homosexual males and heterosexual females, devaluing their identities and mistaking artifice for wholeness. Misunderstanding womanhood as a commodity that can be purchased and consumed in pursuit of male self-fulfillment, these men reject their sexual nature through medical violence done to their own bodies.
Modern conversion therapy has flourished, with legacy gay rights organizations profiting far more from promoting “gender-affirming care” than scrutinizing the ethics of “sex conversion.”'

“Gender Affirming Care” Is the New Conversion Therapy

We should not be seduced by the new “affirmative” trappings of today’s conversion therapy. A look back at the history of these hormonal and surgical treatments reveals how these practices fed upon and exacerbated the self-hatred of lesbians and gay men...

https://fairerdisputations.org/gender-affirming-care-is-the-new-conversion-therapy/

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Froodwithatowel · 16/12/2023 19:38

The quiet bit keeps popping out doesn't it? Good to see this appearing more and more in articles and being openly said.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 16/12/2023 19:40

This quote, from Abigail Favale, in the article is thought-provoking:

The affirmation model cannot offer true self-acceptance, unless the body is no longer considered part of the self. Choosing a lifetime of medicalization in order to maintain an illusion of cross-sex identity is not ‘being who you really are.’ The affirmation model is self-denial masquerading as self-acceptance. Because our bodies are ourselves, what is being “affirmed,” ultimately, is the patient’s self-hatred.

Igmum · 17/12/2023 15:27

Thanks OP. The more people who realise the devastating effects of this the better, I am appalled that we are living in a society that sterilises some of its most vulnerable children

UtopiaPlanitia · 17/12/2023 16:58

Igmum · 17/12/2023 15:27

Thanks OP. The more people who realise the devastating effects of this the better, I am appalled that we are living in a society that sterilises some of its most vulnerable children

And then society pressures us to celebrate the mutilating of these vulnerable children…I can’t understand the cognitive dissonance involved.

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Igmum · 17/12/2023 21:11

I agree. I cannot understand how people can condemn eugenicists, Nazi clinical experimentation (guess who first distilled testosterone) and lobotomies yet celebrate 'gender affirming care'. To me these are all horrific.

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