MIC Ollie Locke & husband on their Brazilian surrogate

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https://twitter.com/David_Challen/status/1730710614824103984

Video in link. They say it is a bit 'prostitutey' but main concern is she's hot...

“We used an egg donor (Spain). We were told that the donor was 28 and taking advantage of a service offered by the clinic. They freeze half the eggs for future use by the donor as an insurance against future fertility issues (e.g. having a family later in life due to career priorities).”

It’s useful to hear the sales pitch that the international commercial reproductive exploitation of women industry will be deploying in its lobbying of government and its efforts to control the media narrative relating to the sale of human eggs and embryos.

Given how much we paid (€11,000), I really don't think there's much money to be made by donors.

Quite.

It’s the international commercial reproductive exploitation of women industry that will be making the money.

The women that the international commercial reproductive exploitation of women industry utilises will be the ones paying the price.

Countries are shutting down surrogacy actively as we know so I truly believe this will become less common over time. The Wikipedia page is interesting.

A man I know went through the US system and said the legal framework was pretty rigorous. Before a surrogacy is agreed, the clinic ask you questions like “what happens to a disabled child with X or Y conditions” and it’s drawn up into a contract.

Of the 2 surrogacy arrangements I know personally and well enough to know for sure, neither are in touch with the birth mother at all.

@NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision that article from the Human Trafficking Hotline and forced surrogacy is very concerning indeed as that is in the UK I assume.

A man I know went through the US system and said the legal framework was pretty rigorous. Before a surrogacy is agreed, the clinic ask you questions like “what happens to a disabled child with X or Y conditions” and it’s drawn up into a contract.

It is not possible to cover every possible eventuality. It just isn’t. Surely they must know they can’t cover everything.

And these contracts: I’ll never forget the example of one where the intended parents were to be given power of attorney over end of life decisions should the pregnant woman end up on life support. Basically to allow them to keep the woman warm as an actual incubator to allow the baby to be delivered at a viable age. Just sickening.

Yes actually I’d forgotten that part but he confirmed that was one of the questions, along with future related disability of the birth woman and protection against future legal action.

The birth mother in question was clearly poor as she qualified for public health insurance in the US. Their paths would never have crossed even if they lived in the same area, never mind country.

Exactly. You can’t have a contract that protects all three parties equally. Someone has to forgo rights if a legal contract is created. And look who it usually is.

with future related disability of the birth woman and protection against future legal action.

Not the rich lawyered up intended parents that’s for sure.

Sadly, yes. For anyone who needs it, the UK Modern Slavery and Exploitation Hotline is 08000 121 700.

You can learn more at https://www.unseenuk.org

I saw one specifying that the surrogate mother was obliged to terminate the pregnancy if her antenatal screening tested positive for a particular list disabilities. If that wasn't bad enough, the list of disabilities specified cerebral palsy.

You can't even do antenatal testing for cerebral palsy! It's most commonly caused by a birth injury to the baby during labour, and it can take years to diagnose. Are they going to hand the baby or toddler back to the surrogate mother and ask her to go back in time to have a termination?