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Women physically (many middle aged and older) attacked by transactivists in Portland.

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Delphinium20 · 19/11/2023 22:14

Multiple women have been injured following an attack by men in Portland after women organized a WDI meeting at a county library. I'm absolutely disgusted that the police didn't arrive to protect these women's First Amendment rights to freedom of speech (though not at all surprised because in many US cities, the police don't care/are understaffed/overworked/dealing with gun violence). https://twitter.com/WDI_USA

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Delphinium20 · 19/11/2023 22:15

https://twitter.com/WDI_USA/status/1726337918942503162 Elderly woman who was a passerby was also attacked.

https://twitter.com/WDI_USA/status/1726337918942503162

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junbean · 19/11/2023 22:19

No it's not in many cities, it's mainly just Portland where they are purposefully underfunded. It's a hub of progress there, in the middle of a dumpster fire of a nation collapsing. Nowhere in the US do cops not care. It's quite the opposite but it's not "caring" either way, it's control gained by violence. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from (Twitter!?) but the media is not your friend in gaining insight into this. I live here btw.

Delphinium20 · 19/11/2023 22:33

I live in the US in a major city and yes, plenty of cops don't care - for example we had cops who failed to act during Uvalde school massacre.

This isn't so much about the cops as it is about the TRAs attacking women. This post is about violence against women and women's free speech.

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fromorbit · 19/11/2023 22:36

The details are terrifying.

An event organised in a Portland by Women's Declaration International, USA was targeted by violent anarchists and assorted male trans" rights supporters. In the run up to the event cars vandalised, gun threats were issued and women were stalked. Security told the women they could not keep them or the library staff safe; too many men showed up threatening violence. The women decided to give their speeches on the street outside the library after threats seemed to risk library staff. In response multiple men carried out violent attacks. Women were punched, kicked, pepper sprayed and pushed to ground. Cameras were stolen some short summaries :

Melinda's phone was seized and smashed before she was hit in the face with a full can of pepper spray. This is male terrorism against women.

"I was blinded and in a lot of pain...They kept hitting her [Lierre] and hitting her."

Sam: "They punched me in the face, and when I fell down they kicked me in the head...Women don't deserve this. Men have no right to do this. This has to stop."

"I was standing there holding the banner with some other women, and some guys started throwing things at us...beer bottles...yellow liquid."

Not only did the men pepper spray and knock Cass down, breaking her glasses, they also attacked an elderly female passerby who had nothing to do with WDI USA's event.

"They came down two sides of the street and quickly surrounded us..I was knocked to ground...I was kicked..."

Multiple WDI USA women called 911 as the men pepper sprayed, punched, kicked, and threw objects at them while stealing and breaking their phones and cameras. Portland Police officers did not arrive to protect the women exercising their 1A rights.

Everyone is safe now, but the women have many injuries. Police did not respond to several 911 calls during the attack.

We'll do our best to get some of the women's bodycam footage out as soon as possible.

The cowardly men tore at least two of the GoPros off women's bodies while assaulting them, then ran away with the cameras.

WDI twitter page has short video interviews with multiple women who were attacked:
https://twitter.com/WDI_USA

Women who speak up in the US are running huge risks and are so brave. However clearly keeping silent is not an option. Either they confront male domination and violence now or it will come after them or their kids in the future.

fromorbit · 19/11/2023 23:04

WDI.USA
Update: 4 women are seeking further medical attention for their injuries. PortlandPolice have taken statements about the attack.

We don't yet have bodycam footage ready, but do have a few stills from near the library, where #trantifa may have attacked patrons not with WDI USA.

Datun · 19/11/2023 23:32

Fucking hell.

Somebody's father, brother, husband is going to take matters into their own hands, at this rate. The police MUST enforce the law.

Grimchmas · 19/11/2023 23:37

They called 911 repeatedly and nobody attended.

Jesus christ.

AlisonDonut · 19/11/2023 23:40

From what I can gather, Portland is a dystopic hellhole. There is no way I'd even consider doing what they did today, there is no system there any more. Certainly no police protection.

Pthalo · 19/11/2023 23:46

That’s awful. I wish the mainstream media would cover the fact that women get beaten up by transwomen, but the media are too busy telling us that refusing to use preferred pronouns is ‘literal violence’.

These were very brave women.

Boiledbeetle · 20/11/2023 00:19

Sooner or later, and the way its going probably sooner, these violent men are actually to go kill a woman at a rally, and the police will just let it happen.

IcakethereforeIam · 20/11/2023 00:37

That library statement, they seem scared.

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Ramblingnamechanger · 20/11/2023 00:59

Solidarity to the women there. We’re any of the men/ tras arrested?

NitroNine · 20/11/2023 01:08

Those women are incredibly brave to have protested; & the men who assaulted them want locking up. In the male estate, obviously. The absolute grace & dignity of the WDI Members is genuinely inspirational. The behaviour of the TRAs, by contrast, is that of the very dregs of society. And saying that, I feel I should apologise to most of the dregs of society because they’d be disgusted by these violent criminals too.

GreenUp · 20/11/2023 02:20

Those women are so brave. I hope the police take some action.

For those living in the US, would a city like Portland have CCTV cameras everywhere like we have in the UK? Would this kind of attack make the local or even national news?

Delphinium20 · 20/11/2023 02:41

Possibly, if a business or building installed their own. But, we don't have the CCTV-wide surveillance here like in other countries - it depends on the individual. The attack SHOULD make the local news, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Codlingmoths · 20/11/2023 03:11

junbean · 19/11/2023 22:19

No it's not in many cities, it's mainly just Portland where they are purposefully underfunded. It's a hub of progress there, in the middle of a dumpster fire of a nation collapsing. Nowhere in the US do cops not care. It's quite the opposite but it's not "caring" either way, it's control gained by violence. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from (Twitter!?) but the media is not your friend in gaining insight into this. I live here btw.

I’ve read this a few times trying to work out what you mean. Do you mean 1. That’s it’s great cops don’t turn up when women are being attacked? Or 2. Do you mean that cops are generally violent, biased and out of control across the US so sympathies to the women attacked but they do not want cops coming to ‘help’ and are safer that way anyway? or 3. Something else?
Completely genuine, I have no idea which way to take this response and it would be useful to clarify :)

junbean · 20/11/2023 03:18

Codlingmoths · 20/11/2023 03:11

I’ve read this a few times trying to work out what you mean. Do you mean 1. That’s it’s great cops don’t turn up when women are being attacked? Or 2. Do you mean that cops are generally violent, biased and out of control across the US so sympathies to the women attacked but they do not want cops coming to ‘help’ and are safer that way anyway? or 3. Something else?
Completely genuine, I have no idea which way to take this response and it would be useful to clarify :)

I meant only specifically what I said and nothing about the other details. I won't take part in any discussion disparaging trans persons. I was merely correcting the parts I mentioned.

Helleofabore · 20/11/2023 03:23

It was Portland that the women cancelled a rally a couple of years ago and Jeanne Hoch (likely misspelled, sorry) and other women were attacked? Cream pied in the face, if I remember correctly?

That was the event before the Tacoma one in Seattle where the students decided to come and scream at women, spray silly string and broke a woman’s hand and then followed and surrounded women as the women were leaving. There was no Tacoma police presence either iirc.

This event sounded horrific. The women had even booked a venue so they were not in the open this time. The situation there does sound dystopian.

Helleofabore · 20/11/2023 03:27

junbean · 20/11/2023 03:18

I meant only specifically what I said and nothing about the other details. I won't take part in any discussion disparaging trans persons. I was merely correcting the parts I mentioned.

Who is disparaging trans people? Codlingmoth’s post certainly didn’t. Have you been to a WDI event or are you doing what you seemed to accuse others of and made judgement from getting your news from social media? Because that would be rather hypocritical, wouldn’t it?

Helleofabore · 20/11/2023 03:46

Well done that library too for remaining impartial and it seems they were determined to allow the event to continue despite their premises being attacked and, I believe, a window broken prior to any woman arriving. Just for adhering to the policy to allow freedom of speech for all.

I had read that the women were very scared because the violent protestors knew where they were staying overnight.

I hope all the women are ok. The attacks sound brutal..

Codlingmoths · 20/11/2023 03:49

junbean · 20/11/2023 03:18

I meant only specifically what I said and nothing about the other details. I won't take part in any discussion disparaging trans persons. I was merely correcting the parts I mentioned.

Huh? That’s exactly my question - I don’t understand what you mean, could you clarify? If you mean exactly what you say could you help us out to understand it?
I never mentioned trans people as hellebore states, my question only refers to the police, and women being attacked (by anyone). I don’t know why you mention trans people.

whatchagonnado · 20/11/2023 06:28

Very alarming

Igneococcus · 20/11/2023 06:41

No it's not in many cities, it's mainly just Portland where they are purposefully underfunded.

Isn't that what Antifa, BLM et al are demanding, to defund the police? It's going really well, isn't it?

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