Lisa Nandy in the Evening Standard

[Justme56]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/lisa-nandy-jk-rowling-labour-labour-party-b1120907.html

The last paragraph - does she mean women being referred to as cervix havers etc? Yes Lisa it is a shameful time!!!

Brilliant, Arthur! I visualised Your Wickedness as Mick Lynch in medieval bondage gear. JRM as his Grand Vizier or consort.

I do hope the SPADS on all parties are reading this.

“Before you go, please hand me the launch codes”

<flunky turns back, visibly shaking>

”Sir, are you…sure?”

”Yes. ACTIVATE JKR”.

Well that's a mental image I didn't need. Thankfully there are many hours to go before bed, so hopefully I will have forgotten it by then.

I know right? Imagine sending that lot up against Putin. Jesus.

Is it the time the Bank of England lit up in trans colours?? Surely only the marginalised of marginalised ppl evah!! can do that?

People like Nandy are great at saying "we should be having different conversations" but never seem to be quite so good at...actually having them?

Muppet.

I have no idea how these people get through the day.

I don’t understand how such a person not only got elected but promoted to the shadow cabinet.
I saw and heard her say that Paedophiles should be in women’s prisons if they ‘think they are a woman’ !

I've got the Thunderbirds music stuck in my head now.

The vast majority of "heat" has come from the TRA side with their abuse and threats of violence and rape whenever a woman dare speak.

Something that is rarely acknowledged by the "both sides" crew.

Could have been worse, could have been JRM in bondage gear.

Now you’ve got that mental image, haven’t you? Like Percy in Blackadder 2 😉

So the thing I don't understand is - if we shouldn't be reducing men and women to their body parts - what then is the need for "gender affirming surgery"? Lifesaving as it is.

The difference between JKR and Lisa Nandy is that JKR says what she means and means what she says. Whereas LN just mouths...words. She really is bloody hopeless.

(why is my post in a different font? i don't know)

People like Nandy are great at saying "we should be having different conversations" but never seem to be quite so good at...actually having them?

It's also difficult to have different conversations if you've expelled the people you disagree with from the Labour Party.

Hmm, something weird happening with the Mumsnet fonts.

“When we look at the way we reduce the debate to things like bodily parts, I think when we look back in history we will be utterly ashamed of ourselves.”

How about, the people that wanted to make up a radical new meaning for woman/man, without a good justification, and then slandered everyone else for questioning or denying it, should be utterly ashamed of themselves?

How about "bodily parts" are just the most sensible way to define men and women?

(I think some DSD cases may raise genuine questions or issues. However, using trans "self identity" as a standard is obviously as dodgy as it gets.)

Seems to be just this thread that now has an issue with the bold text...

I blame Arthurbella's aliens...

She hasn't got the brains god gave little chickens.

Oh, I want to boldly go

F.A.B....U.L.O.U.S!

* WE HAVE TAKEN CONTROL OF MUMSNET VIA ARUTHERBELLAS MN ACCOUNT

ALL YOUR WEBS ARE BELONG TO US

WE DO NOT WANT LISA NANDY AS TRIBUTE

GIVES US BETTER HUMAN RESOURCES AND POSSIBLY GIN PLESE*

You are so naughty Arthur.

Just in case anyone is new to Lisa Nandy's utterly idiotic stance on this:

Clearly not much has changed in three years.

I DID WARN YOU

[to be honest I have no idea what's going on]

[Please don't tell MNHQ. I was only pretending to be an alien]

<frantically hits buttons with fists>

<headbangs keyboard>