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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Green Party Women Disaffiliated by the Green Party Standing Orders Committee

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WarriorN · 11/11/2023 18:32

BREAKING NEWS: Green Party Standing Orders Committee has ruled to disaffiliate Green Party Women as a special interest group - silencing representation for approx 25k female members in the party. Causing detriment to members on the basis of sex is ACT OF UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION

x.com/greenfemsuk/status/1723398895818981592?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

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PronounssheRa · 10/12/2023 18:57

MidWineCent · 10/12/2023 18:55

@IntergrationIvy I too found that post you mentioned, this account has zero followers. Let alone any women.
I'm inclined to think you made this post all by yourself.

Quite.

It's pretty impressive the OP found that account and that particular tweet.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/12/2023 18:59

It's pretty impressive the OP found that account and that particular tweet.

Despite never having heard the common term "TRA" as an acronym for "trans rights activist" while being such an expert on what gender critical feminists think 🤔

ArthurbellaScott · 10/12/2023 19:07

IntergrationIvy · 10/12/2023 18:28

Any comment on the other post? The one asking a trans woman to post their genitalia online? Wouldn't you consider that sexual harassment, possibly with a hate aggravator?

If you want to talk about word definitions I think you'll find most dictionaries will say trans women are women too.

Of course transwomen are not women. The clue is in the name. If they were women, they'd just be 'women'.

Meanwhile, why have you brought some random tweet made by some random person to the feminist forum on Mumsnet? We are not the internet's mother, did you misunderstand the name of the website? We do not dish out approval or approbation to every random nutjob on the web and it's frankly weird that you are suggesting we do so.

Crikeyisthatthetime · 10/12/2023 19:08

Not sure what that random goady post online somewhere has to do with gender critical women in the green party.
I'm sure we'll be enlightened by someone though, ay.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/12/2023 19:09

MidWineCent · 10/12/2023 18:25

@PoppyCup

"I think because they are relatively minor, they are the easiest party in which to gain traction if you are just desperate for attention and to be taken seriously for no reason other than it is literal violence for your ego not to massaged at every #opportunity. "

Quite! The Green Party has become a place where the young people who everyone else at school avoids goes to make friends.
Sort of a youth club for blue-haired rotten teethed chubby incels.

That's a really nasty thing to say. So nasty that one might almost htink it's been put there to get a screenshot to use elsewhere to show how nasty Mumsnet feminists are. Accordingly, I'm going to report it.

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:10

My understanding is the Green Party were being held back by the gender critical group who wanted to talk about nothing other than what people have between their legs.

No thats bullshit.

Males who "identified as" women or non binary started to become part of the women's group, as well as standing for chair positions.

That's as insulting as if a white person stood for something Black Lives Matters or an able bodied neurotypical person wanted to chair the disabled group, and claimed to identify as such.

There's already an LGBTQA+ group. The trans identified people can be members of that. Their needs are very specific.

The women's group had feminist book clubs and discussed issues pertinent to women prior to all that.

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Waitwhat23 · 10/12/2023 19:10

The Douglas Adams mention on that no follower account has reminded me of the person who is currently trying to hound Slarty Bartfast on Twitter to try to dox her to her employer, without getting the connection to HGTTG. Apparently his lack of knowledge of the book is the fault of British women 🤷🏻‍♀️

toomanytrees · 10/12/2023 19:20

Of all the parties to be preoccupied by all this infighting - the Green Party, literally obsessed with arguing over what a woman is while the world is on fire with the climate crisis, the mass extinction existential threat that is here, right now.

It is precisely because there isn't a climate "crisis" and mass extinction is not an existential threat that the Green Party can be distracted by luxury beliefs like gender identity. Yes the climate is changing. No, it is not a crisis or catastrophe. Like others have said, climate activism and gender ideology bear many of the hallmarks of religion. As an aside, silicone breast implants, wigs and artificial hormones don't seem to be particularly eco-friendly. The green gender ideologues don't appear to walk the walk.

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:22

As the deep green resistance put it: https://deepgreenresistance.org/frequently-asked-questions-faqs/

Lundy Bancroft, (author of 'why does he do that?' And the freedom programme for abused women) writing about the mentality of abusive men, writes, “The roots [of abuse] are ownership, the trunk is entitlement, and the branches are control.”

The planet is abused through ownership and control and thus women are too by men.

A few individuals in the party, mostly male, have done exactly the same to GPW.

If they cared one bit about women's rights, they'd respect and recognise their rights to organise their own groups, devoid of males.

But they don't. They are self centred and controlling.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/12/2023 19:24

If they cared one bit about women's rights, they'd respect and recognise their rights to organise their own groups, devoid of males.

But they don't. They are self centred and controlling.

It's the same story in all political parties and virtually all organisations with any power or influence.

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:25

As an aside, silicone breast implants, wigs and artificial hormones don't seem to be particularly eco-friendly. The green gender ideologues don't appear to walk the walk.

This point appears to fly over all their heads. Given lupron cannot be administered by nurses who could be pregnant within a couple of months, I can't imagine what it's doing to water ways.

I'll never forget one now ex male Green Party WOMENchair crowing on Twitter about the death of sex based rights for women in the party, while in the next breath talking about glittery nail polish.

Jfc, micro plastics anyone??

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WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:30

And all that added to that stupid motion supporting drag queen story time (more micro plastics galore in the costumes and sequins) they're basically all about consumerism, materialism and capitalism which ultimately leads to abuse of the planet through over production of single, short term use crap, and very happy to abuse women along the way in the same way and for the same reasons.

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WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:31

And that's not even including the Challenor horror show.

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RebelliousCow · 10/12/2023 19:40

IntergrationIvy · 10/12/2023 15:57

What's a TRA?

My understanding is the Green Party were being held back by the gender critical group who wanted to talk about nothing other than what people have between their legs.

Now the Green Party are free to focus on actual Green issues.

Green issues are surely those that relate to the natural world; the earth and its rhythms, and how poeople can co-exist in a more sustainable way with these rhythms and cycles with some degree of harmony. Biological sex is an absolute biological reality on this planet, and in fact is one of its most fundamental building blocks.

Trans ideology seems to me to be more about escaping the reality of life on earth. It is a purely human and narcissitic occupation and concern. One's biological sex does not have to determine everything about one's life and expression; but the body and biology are not separate to one's self and they do shape that self's experiences in certain ways.

I'm not sure how ingesting cross sex hormones that are not naturally suited to the body and its functioning is at all 'green'?

RebelliousCow · 10/12/2023 19:45

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I don't think you should let social media colour your view of everything. Real conversations and discussions happen elsewhere.

RebelliousCow · 10/12/2023 19:47

IntergrationIvy · 10/12/2023 18:28

Any comment on the other post? The one asking a trans woman to post their genitalia online? Wouldn't you consider that sexual harassment, possibly with a hate aggravator?

If you want to talk about word definitions I think you'll find most dictionaries will say trans women are women too.

I wouldn't consider some random bloke on twitter to be representative of anything but himself.

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:49

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:31

And that's not even including the Challenor horror show.

Which leads us very neatly onto the fact that Queer theory has very concerning links to peadophila:

Professor Derek Jensen, a big part of the DGR and has written a lot about Lundy Bancroft's work wrt abuse of women and equivalency with abuse of the planet. (Power, exploitation, money, ownership)

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WarriorN · 10/12/2023 19:53

Any comment on the other post? The one asking a trans woman to post their genitalia online? Wouldn't you consider that sexual harassment, possibly with a hate aggravator?

None of the women in the Green Party have been doing anything like this.

If you want to talk about word definitions I think you'll find most dictionaries will say trans women are women too.

Everyone knows you cannot physically actually change sex. It's cosmetic surgery and cross sex hormones - though I think many TRAs in the Green Party want us to consider men to be women without anything other than a wig and a dress.

Which is the most offensive thing you can think of. That women are long hair and dresses.

So FUCKING sexist.

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Grimchmas · 10/12/2023 21:31

toomanytrees · 10/12/2023 19:20

Of all the parties to be preoccupied by all this infighting - the Green Party, literally obsessed with arguing over what a woman is while the world is on fire with the climate crisis, the mass extinction existential threat that is here, right now.

It is precisely because there isn't a climate "crisis" and mass extinction is not an existential threat that the Green Party can be distracted by luxury beliefs like gender identity. Yes the climate is changing. No, it is not a crisis or catastrophe. Like others have said, climate activism and gender ideology bear many of the hallmarks of religion. As an aside, silicone breast implants, wigs and artificial hormones don't seem to be particularly eco-friendly. The green gender ideologues don't appear to walk the walk.

JFC I hope you're right that there's no climate crisis. I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that, unfortunately.

Grimchmas · 10/12/2023 21:32

The OED definition of a woman is Adult Human Female by the way. No mention of Transwomen. But that's just another example of TRAs gaslighting the world with demonstrable untruths. How very boringly Orwellian.

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 21:57

WarriorN · 10/12/2023 11:04

Just posting this tweet here for balance.

👀

x.com/bbcmtd/status/1733774669432410445?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Well. WHAT a surprise. Shocked. Shocked I tell you!

https://reduxx.info/uk-transgender-greens-candidate-reportedly-shared-sissification-porn-content-on-social-media-board/

A trans-identified male recently selected to be a political candidate for the UK Green Party has prompted backlash after describing himself as a “proud lesbian” and accusing critics of “transphobia.” Melissa Poulton, previously known as Matthew Viner, has a disturbing history of sharing pornographic “sissification” content on social media.

and

Just months ago, Heather Herbert, a trans-identified male currently standing with the Green Party, came under fire on social media after uploading photos of himself using a bathroom intended for women with disabilities to “dilate” himself.

Herbert posted an image of himself lying on the floor the bathroom, which was at Gatwick airport, captioning it: “Found a disabled toilet… not the most fun I’ve had.” Dilation refers to a process in which trans-identified males insert a rod into their surgically-constructed genital hole, often referred to as a “neo-vagina.” Dilation is often done for the rest of a patient’s life following “gender affirming” genital surgery.

And, brief reminder...

In 2019, the party was accused of not properly vetting Aimee Challenor prior to allowing him to run for the position of Deputy Leader. Challenor, who was the party’s “equality spokeswoman” was a top contender for the position until it was learned he had hired his pedophile father to serve as his election agent.

At the time, Challenor’s father was out on bail after being charged for the rape and torture of a 10-year-old girl. Challenor nevertheless hid his father’s past from the public before it was discovered in what the party would later call a “major safeguarding risk.” David Challenor was ultimately sentenced to 22 years in prisonon_ for the horrific crime.*

While under scrutiny, Challenor’s romantic partner was similarly embroiled in controversy after netizens discovered he had admitted to becoming aroused while fantasizing about children being sexually abuseded_.*

#notourcrimes #notwomen

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Worldgonecrazy · 11/12/2023 15:05

The Bromsgrove Conservative/Green person is also claiming Roma/Traveller heritage. I suspect that’s another lie and wish to align with what he perceives to be marginalised community. I don’t fancy his chances if they find out.

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