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Lesbian interviewed under caution for tweets

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Justme56 · 11/11/2023 08:36

Link to https://x.com/wearefaircop/status/1723241217536758023?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Attached the transcript from the interview- not sure if posted in order.

Lesbian interviewed under caution for tweets
Lesbian interviewed under caution for tweets
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HoneyButterPopcorn · 11/11/2023 10:04

Shame the police don’t say ‘it’s not a threat, so put on your big boy pants and block. Stop wasting our time’

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:05

I think the Miller reference may be a reference to the fact that the police can't just pop this in their big police book of 'non crime hate incidents', so therefore they've decided they must do something else?

Yes, my thoughts exactly.

Catsanfan · 11/11/2023 10:07

Wtf. How has this woman been arrested when LOADS of people tweet things like this?! Maybe we should all take to Twitter and do similar and see what happens?! Appalling. What happened to freedom of speech? People tell TERFs to DIAF on Twitter, yet WE are now being arrested for speaking biological truth?! What is happening?! What can we do as a collective to sort this shit out, it's so worrying!

DiscoBoots · 11/11/2023 10:08

Given the person complaining did so due to beliefs on one side of this argument, surely a rational response would be a eg week of a group of people (us?) submitting complaints about every single tweet we find offensive on the other side and sending evidence of such to the press when the Police inevitably completely ignore our complaints?

PizzaNinja · 11/11/2023 10:10

JFC. Is it too much to ask that the police actually try to solve some damn crimes for once?! I’d be so ashamed if I’d joined the police, and ended up interviewing people about what they’ve posted on Twitter! 🤬

LakeTiticaca · 11/11/2023 10:10

Which Police constabulary is this? What are their records on crime detection?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:13

Northumberland

PaterPower · 11/11/2023 10:14

I expect she got some pretty offensive replies to her alleged tweets.

Bet she wouldn’t get the same ‘service’ if she complained about those.

Catsanfan · 11/11/2023 10:14

Not as sure about twitter, but for the record I have reported loads of TRA hate speech on Facebook and they have never accepted my reports. Apparently, it's not hate speech to make T-shirts that say "kill terfs' or such like

Catsanfan · 11/11/2023 10:16

DiscoBoots · 11/11/2023 10:08

Given the person complaining did so due to beliefs on one side of this argument, surely a rational response would be a eg week of a group of people (us?) submitting complaints about every single tweet we find offensive on the other side and sending evidence of such to the press when the Police inevitably completely ignore our complaints?

I'm actually up for that, what's the best way of reporting tweets to the police?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:16

Yes, exactly, any genderist homophobic statement such as "genital preferences are transphobia" for instance. The police should take those equally seriously.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:17

The police have five monitored strands, trans identity being one, other crime against marginalised groups isn't counted as "hate crime"

LarkLane · 11/11/2023 10:18

Hmm. I'd be keen to see the CPS advice on this one.

All these arrests and interviews. Has there actually been a successful criminal case against a GC woman using Twitter and allegedly causing hurty feelz?
I'm retired, and criminal law was not my area, but I'm thinking not?

Or is it still the process is the punishment, with an eventual NFA?

RethinkingLife · 11/11/2023 10:24

LarkLane · 11/11/2023 10:18

Hmm. I'd be keen to see the CPS advice on this one.

All these arrests and interviews. Has there actually been a successful criminal case against a GC woman using Twitter and allegedly causing hurty feelz?
I'm retired, and criminal law was not my area, but I'm thinking not?

Or is it still the process is the punishment, with an eventual NFA?

Scarlett? The young mother who was removed from her house in front of her children and was convicted of something?

Does it ring a bell with anyone?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:26

Kate Scottow. She was convicted and then her conviction was quashed on appeal.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:28

All these arrests and interviews. Has there actually been a successful criminal case against a GC woman using Twitter and allegedly causing hurty feelz?

There was one in Portsmouth I think. It sounded like they knew each other offline.

LarkLane · 11/11/2023 10:31

Thanks Eresh will read up on those. Appreciate you taking the trouble there.

Boiledbeetle · 11/11/2023 10:31

Love this response

https://twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1723255833000091815?s=19

Baroness Nichol: maybe altogether now tweet the same tweets...

Lesbian interviewed under caution for tweets
Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:34

I love the Baroness.

Froodwithatowel · 11/11/2023 10:34

DiscoBoots · 11/11/2023 10:08

Given the person complaining did so due to beliefs on one side of this argument, surely a rational response would be a eg week of a group of people (us?) submitting complaints about every single tweet we find offensive on the other side and sending evidence of such to the press when the Police inevitably completely ignore our complaints?

This does need evidencing and putting squarely in the public domain for reference.

The facts are:

Trans activists can freely threaten to kill (in graphic, deeply disturbed and often sexual detail), sexually assault, rape, batter and maim women, and post pictures of them posed with the weapons to do so, and this is apparently fine and an exception to the law of malicious communications/hate crime/yada yada.

Women stating to a man that he is a man when this is against his wishes is an arrestable offence.

This would suggest that accountability under the law depends on who is breaking it and that the law is applied to oppressed groups (women for example) and not to powerful groups (trans activists, almost entirely male ones, and many not actually TQ or only temporarily TQ).

This is all batshit, would never stand up in court, and is a massive shame on the police and government of this country that it's been allowed to get this far, which has happened through sneaking under the radar for a long, long time with the safeguarding disaster of political capture. We've even had some truly gormless, witless twits of MPs standing smirking under signs calling for the decapitation of women who will not pretend to believe that men are women when men command this. I reported this at the time, asking for what checks were kept on the conduct of MPs, as this should have been a very serious offense, and got <shrug> yes, it's appalling, but there's no accountability for people in very significant positions of public responsibility.

Boiledbeetle · 11/11/2023 10:37

Froodwithatowel · 11/11/2023 10:34

This does need evidencing and putting squarely in the public domain for reference.

The facts are:

Trans activists can freely threaten to kill (in graphic, deeply disturbed and often sexual detail), sexually assault, rape, batter and maim women, and post pictures of them posed with the weapons to do so, and this is apparently fine and an exception to the law of malicious communications/hate crime/yada yada.

Women stating to a man that he is a man when this is against his wishes is an arrestable offence.

This would suggest that accountability under the law depends on who is breaking it and that the law is applied to oppressed groups (women for example) and not to powerful groups (trans activists, almost entirely male ones, and many not actually TQ or only temporarily TQ).

This is all batshit, would never stand up in court, and is a massive shame on the police and government of this country that it's been allowed to get this far, which has happened through sneaking under the radar for a long, long time with the safeguarding disaster of political capture. We've even had some truly gormless, witless twits of MPs standing smirking under signs calling for the decapitation of women who will not pretend to believe that men are women when men command this. I reported this at the time, asking for what checks were kept on the conduct of MPs, as this should have been a very serious offense, and got <shrug> yes, it's appalling, but there's no accountability for people in very significant positions of public responsibility.

Edited

For those lurking and new to this the Decapitate Terfs sign with gormless twits of MPs standing smirking underneath it!

Lesbian interviewed under caution for tweets
popebishop · 11/11/2023 10:43

LarkLane · 11/11/2023 10:18

Hmm. I'd be keen to see the CPS advice on this one.

All these arrests and interviews. Has there actually been a successful criminal case against a GC woman using Twitter and allegedly causing hurty feelz?
I'm retired, and criminal law was not my area, but I'm thinking not?

Or is it still the process is the punishment, with an eventual NFA?

Helen Islan of Mermaids tried to bring a criminal (i think?) case against a GC transwoman for "transgender hate crime".

It got thrown out because Helen and her case were even more bumblingly incoherent than even my previous sentence makes it sound.

https://www.2harecourt.com/2019/03/04/gudrun-young-secures-no-case-to-answer-in-controversial-first-prosecution-for-transgender-hate-crime/

I think supporters of Mermaids need reminding at every opportunity that she did this.

And that Mermaids published their child clients' confidential information online where the public could have read it.

Hanlonsamazer · 11/11/2023 10:46

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/11/2023 10:26

Kate Scottow. She was convicted and then her conviction was quashed on appeal.

This case is now in CPS guidelines on charging communication offences (s127).