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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK

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Notaflippinclue · 04/11/2023 22:14

Why the fuck has MUMSNET cancelled her

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Hanlonsamazer · 10/11/2023 09:37

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 10/11/2023 09:11

Ohh Ohh are there pillow fights in laydee prisons? I bet there are. Alpha's obsession with the female estate seem largely based on women wearing their own clothes (which no doubt in Alpha's head means frilly dresses and high heels rather than the practical reality of joggers and hoodies).

No hoodies in custody I’m afraid!

WickedSerious · 10/11/2023 09:37

AlphaTransWoman · 10/11/2023 09:24

@TinselAngel
Had it ever occurred to you that I might actually be a woman, in the psychological sense? Or do you automatically rule out that possibility when engaging with trans women?

It's impossible for you to 'be a woman' in any sense.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 10/11/2023 09:42

Hanlonsamazer · 10/11/2023 09:37

No hoodies in custody I’m afraid!

Oops sorry sweatshirts/trackie tops (I de-string hoodies as part of my job as they are liable to catch in machinery so I should have thought that one through).

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 10/11/2023 09:44

WickedSerious · 10/11/2023 09:37

It's impossible for you to 'be a woman' in any sense.

We aren't a fucking hive mind. What makes us women is physical not thoughts or feelz.

DialSquare · 10/11/2023 09:52

I'm Christy Turlington, in a psychological sense.

LarkLane · 10/11/2023 09:55

@Hanlonsamazer I sincerely hope that you are nearing better days.
I've had occasion to visit women in prison, and it's grim as fuck just being there voluntarily for a few hours. Flowers

BezMills · 10/11/2023 10:00

I love how Kellie-Jay has Terf Talk Tuesday where anyone can dial in and chat live on air. The complete opposite of lalala terfblocked twits like LOJ who just edit anyone out of their life that disagrees with their massive misogyny

Hanlonsamazer · 10/11/2023 10:28

LarkLane · 10/11/2023 09:55

@Hanlonsamazer I sincerely hope that you are nearing better days.
I've had occasion to visit women in prison, and it's grim as fuck just being there voluntarily for a few hours. Flowers

Thank you. Still finding life very difficult. Get irritated by sanctimonious pricks on here and even more irritated by being co-opted into some bloke’s sissy porn fetish. Sickening.

Datun · 10/11/2023 10:31

I've just been checking out her Facebook interview with I think Peter Boghossian, where the police accused her of being 'untoward towards paedophiles.'

That is, verbatim, what they said to her. Can you imagine anyone in the police even formulating that sentence in their heads, much less saying it out loud.

She tells Peter it was on the basis of her saying that any man who wants to enter a space where little girls might be naked, semi naked, getting undressed or needing privacy is a 'predatory paedophile move'.

There is absolutely no denying the fact, that the police's focus was concentrating on her opinion of the perpetrator's violation, rather than the safety of the children.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 10:35

@BezMills

Not "Champion of Actual Free Speech" Self Owen Jones! Say it ain't so!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4939597-owen-jones-comes-out-fighting-for-actual-free-speech

RethinkingLife · 10/11/2023 10:48

LarkLane · 09/11/2023 23:28

Sooner or later, somebody will mention the Wooky Hollow😂
Don't mention the Grafton!
Rethinking ask your relatives if they ever played for The Lobster in Crocky.😉
Defo six degrees.

Let's just say that memories of stories about She, the Grafton, Western Approaches, Augustus John, the Castle, and then I can't remember the name of the wine bar that opened in Leece (or was it Ranelagh) St, opposite the Greek restaurant (just down from the Philharmonic Arms).

I'm racking my brains for the names of some of the clubs they attended.

I am definitely overdue a catch-up with some of that side of the family.

'untoward towards paedophiles.'

Between that and "disrespectful woman," so many of these (intended) reprimands are what others might consider badges of honour.

PatatiPatatras · 10/11/2023 10:50

Ah so it is the psychological women with the female prison fantasies?

Sounds about right.

Syrupycake · 10/11/2023 10:59

Don’t wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
I got that from another mumsnet thread

IcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2023 11:08
Shocked Tv Show GIF by Laff

I just checked the .gif for Alf. I'd completely forgotten this character

RethinkingLife · 10/11/2023 11:09

Syrupycake · 10/11/2023 10:59

Don’t wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
I got that from another mumsnet thread

See also, pigeon chess.

Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory. The pro-creationist reviewers of this book clearly demonstrate this to be true.

MavisMcMinty · 10/11/2023 11:13

Heh. I had an aunt who was a creationist (and had photos of Ian Paisley Senior on her walls to counter the photos of the Pope and JFK on her Catholic neighbours’ walls). She once said to my Dad in a tone of disgust and disbelief “I hear you believe in evolution!”

HorribleNecktie · 10/11/2023 11:28

AlphaTransWoman · 10/11/2023 09:28

And lets try to be a bit nicer to each other shall we? Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to the baddies in a Roald Dahl book.

I don’t have to be nice to you. So I won’t.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 10/11/2023 11:35

AlphaTransWoman · 10/11/2023 09:28

And lets try to be a bit nicer to each other shall we? Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to the baddies in a Roald Dahl book.

You go first.

Promise you won't traumatize women and girls by entering their spaces.

Nope I thought not. Not a hint of kindness towards women.

Datun · 10/11/2023 11:35

IcakethereforeIam · 10/11/2023 11:08

I just checked the .gif for Alf. I'd completely forgotten this character

God, that takes me back. I used to love Alf.

TinselAngel · 10/11/2023 11:36

He was so cuddly.

NecessaryScene · 10/11/2023 11:56

Had it ever occurred to you that I might actually be a woman, in the psychological sense? Or do you automatically rule out that possibility when engaging with trans women?

Ignoring the logical and practical absurdity of trying to use a definition of "woman" relying on something psychological, I could countenance the possibility that one might maybe recognise that transmen or transwomen somehow had opposite-sex-typical behaviour, so maybe one could say there was "something" there.

But as Helen Joyce has said - sexed behavioural differences are just emphasised by "trans". Transwomen tend to be at the far male end of sex-typical behaviour, and transmen tend to be at the far female end. My empirical observation, there is absolutely no trend of trans people exhibiting cross-sex behaviour on anything other than a performative level.

And I liked this, quoted from someone on Twitter by Glinner the other day.

Being "trans" appears to be the condition of especially lacking insight into the experience of the opposite sex compared to the general population

I think there's a lot to that. There are men on this board who manage to blend in enough that they're not obviously clockable as not being women. But that's something transwomen really struggle with, as they have far less understanding and empathy with women.

AlphaTransWoman · 10/11/2023 12:02

@NecessaryScene

Maybe this comes back to the "extreme male brain" theory associated with neurodiversity, and the overlap that has with being trans?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 12:07

Had it ever occurred to you that I might actually be a woman, in the psychological sense? Or do you automatically rule out that possibility when engaging with trans women?

No, and yes. Hope that clears that up.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 12:10

Dingle, Coconut Grove, Wookey Hollow and Crocky on the other hand.

I've been to Crocky for a weekend once, a friend lived there after uni but moved soon after I visited. I just remember it had a great chip shop nearby!

fedupandstuck · 10/11/2023 12:19

AlphaTransWoman · 10/11/2023 12:02

@NecessaryScene

Maybe this comes back to the "extreme male brain" theory associated with neurodiversity, and the overlap that has with being trans?

The "extreme male brain" theory was associated with autism, not "neurodiversity". It is not a rigorously tested scientific theory and there is little robust evidence for it.

Is there an overlap between autism and transgenderism, in all cases? Perhaps there is a correlation with the recent increase in young teens/young adults particularly girls, but what evidence is there for later transitioning men?

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