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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Owen Jones comes out fighting for "Actual Free Speech"

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:17

https://x.com/ucu/status/1722666107163832603?s=46&t=SPorwN-mokktL467rcZ57g

"We should start a new campaign for actual free speech says @OwenJones84

It's time to take a stand"

Looking forward to him unblocking all the women he's blocked on Twitter and hearing what they have to say. Free speech is for everyone, right?

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RoyalCorgi · 10/11/2023 09:17

Surely one day Owen Jones will collapse under the weight of his own hypocrisy.

Froodwithatowel · 10/11/2023 09:17

Oh dear......😂

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 10/11/2023 09:18

I can't deal with this level of hypocrisy. I really can't.

NecessaryScene · 10/11/2023 09:19

I did kind of glance at the Twitter discussion yesterday, but thought people must be being a little bit mean and paraphrasing to make him look ridiculous. My mistake.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:20

Not only is Owen Jones the perfect figurehead for the "Actual Free Speech" campaign, the University and College Union is the perfect organisation to host it!

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:22

I'm bored, I'm going to produce a transcript of the video this morning, unless anyone knows of an existing one?

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pickledandpuzzled · 10/11/2023 09:23

What is it that he approves of that’s not allowed to be said, I wonder? I mean, we know what he thinks shouldn’t be said, but who does he think is wrongly being shut down?

WickedSerious · 10/11/2023 09:24

Fuckin' twonk.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:26

What is it that he approves of that’s not allowed to be said, I wonder? I mean, we know what he thinks shouldn’t be said, but who does he think is wrongly being shut down?

I'll hazard a guess that he's been censored in some way about Israel/Palestine.

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ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 09:26

Wait, have they recorded that at 1.5 speed?

Signalbox · 10/11/2023 09:26

Oh god is “free speech” about to get a definition makeover so that it means the complete opposite.

TaytoCheeseandOnion · 10/11/2023 09:26

I think he is more annoying with the sound off.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/11/2023 09:28

Oh dear - he's in a whirlpool of contradictions all of his own making. 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:28

Oh god is “free speech” about to get a definition makeover so that it means the complete opposite.

I think you may be onto something. There's a good book that could be used as a manual/blueprint, a bit old but some elements are timeless.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=x1-2y2XELxU

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Noshowlomo · 10/11/2023 09:28

What a ginormous tit

ArthurbellaScott · 10/11/2023 09:29

His video has a whole 39 likes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:30

His fans aren't so hypocritical as him, they just unironically hate free speech.

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Signalbox · 10/11/2023 09:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2023 09:26

What is it that he approves of that’s not allowed to be said, I wonder? I mean, we know what he thinks shouldn’t be said, but who does he think is wrongly being shut down?

I'll hazard a guess that he's been censored in some way about Israel/Palestine.

Yes I assumed it’s to do with Braverman calling for the Armistice Day free Palestine march to be called off.

GCAcademic · 10/11/2023 09:35

The General Secretary of UCU, Jo Grady, is having to spin frantically because her poorly executed industrial action has lost members huge amounts of salary for nothing and destroyed the cohesion and credibility of the union. Lots of people re calling for her to resign. Hence, her new front of mindless activism is “freedom of speech”, something she has previously demonstrated her commitment to by using Terfblocker and calling for the University of York to sack a precariously-employed member of staff who didn’t believe that other lesbians could have a penis. She and LOJ are of the same calibre when it comes to hypocrisy.

And, yes, it’s to do with Palestine-Israel. My sympathies are generally pro-Palestinian, but I would not want to be a Jewish member of staff in academia at the moment because it’s full of people who are disgustingly and openly anti-Semitic. All those people who wanted TERFs sacked do a dizzying 180 when it comes to “freedom of speech” on this issue.

Meanacademic · 10/11/2023 09:37

Rather grand building that Owen is recording from, is that his private member’s club?

Also, what is he on about, why is he talking about American politics and history (First Red Scare, McCarthyism)?? The last time I checked UCU was a trade union for U.K. academics.

And the ‘relatively voiceless’ minorities - I’d say he is correct if he is talking about people with disabilities but if he means TQ people, given their small numbers, they are surely not voiceless! He is really incoherent. How the mighty have fallen.

RoyalCorgi · 10/11/2023 09:38

The other person who has bravely taken a stance in support free speech in relation to Israel/Palestine is Professor Priyamvada Gopal.

However, as Professor Alice Sullivan points out, not so long Professor Gopal signed an open letter to the board of Advance HE denouncing them for allowing Sullivan to speak for 15 minutes at a 1-day conference in Birmingham.

https://twitter.com/ProfAliceS/status/1722643756921274664

https://twitter.com/ProfAliceS/status/1722643756921274664

Signalbox · 10/11/2023 09:43

Thinking about it though the Armistice Day march hasn’t even been called off so there must be more to it than that. Has someone been sacked or hounded off campus or arrested for calling for a ceasefire? Or if it’s not about Palestine / Israel has something else prompted this.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/11/2023 09:45

"This post has been deleted."

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pickledandpuzzled · 10/11/2023 09:47

Really?! Self censorship?!

BezMills · 10/11/2023 09:47

RoyalCorgi · 10/11/2023 09:17

Surely one day Owen Jones will collapse under the weight of his own hypocrisy.

He's not a sturdy chap, I worry for his back