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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
MalagaNights · 04/11/2023 18:20

Maaate · 04/11/2023 14:47

Btw I'm in no way saying that religious people have mental health issues, just that the rules and affirmations can be very attractive to people who do.

Religious people have fewer mental health issues and are happier than those that are not religious.

Interestingly conservatives also have fewer mental health issues and are happier than leftists. Particularly true of conservative women.

But I take your point. Religion has often been found to be a solice for people struggling in life.

TempestTost · 04/11/2023 20:03

I totally understand that some people are religious and that they find strength in their faith. That's great if it helps them to understand themselves and their mental health. BUT it is never a valid reason to detransition. A belief in gender identity as a truth was the foundation that led to transition in the first place. Anyone who regrets their transition and wants to detransition should be doing so because they now understand themselves better than they did, not because they have replaced one belief's tenets with those of another.

No one comes to understand themselves outside of a "belief system" that delineates the nature of reality, and of the human person. Even atheists and feminists.

People taken in by gender ideology sometimes re vulnerable in part because they don't have a robust sense of these things, a systematic understanding of what is real and how we understand and relate to that.

It's not surprising that realizing that what they have is just a kind of philosophical void would send them looking for something else. Of the developed thought systems out there, Catholicism has one of the more long standing ones, with all kinds of written content from the very simple to very high level thinking.

And it has the advantage that is also addresses things like meaning and psychology and spiritual pain which also need explanations and remedies, especially for someone like a detransitioner. (or an addict.)

People come to understand themselves in part in terms of the lens they have around what it is to be human, no one does it without a lens at all.

Delphinium20 · 05/11/2023 00:50

Fortunately no minor surgeries are allowed in the UK, so not relevant.

One thing the governing medical body in Norway determined is that no one under 25 should have blockers, hormones or surgeries. It shows they know how vulnerable young adults can be mislead and don't have the same reasoning capacity as older adults. A 17 year old with autism and or mental health issues isn't the same as one who is middle age, like say Caitlin Jenner.

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