School sports

[AlphaTransWoman]

Do you think it is ever acceptable to force a child assigned male at birth to participate in contact sports at school such as football or rugby. If so do you appreciate the distress this may cause to children born with a male body who have a female gender identity?

I have to say that seems wrong to me given the aversion girls would have to physical sport and competitive activity

Wait til you hear about horse riding OP, it’ll blow your mind!

Taking it on board would inconvenience OP. Women are wonderful and enviable UNTIL their wants and needs mean saying No to males.

At that point, they can be safely ignored.

that is the most fantastic thing i have learned from any of these threads.

That should be the case for all schools

Is topping from the bottom the right phrase?

Oh I dunno. Perhaps a little light archery might be on the cards?

Edwardian, obvs.

@Brefugee

The PE teachers are really complimentary about the ‘lower set’ (it’s not called this btw) because it’s really more about teaching children cooperation and enjoyment of moving their bodies than trying to improve their dribbling skills, for example

Even in the top sets there’s no ‘pick a team’; everything is done to minimise exclusion.

We have a far higher than average SEND cohort, partly due to having an inclusion base in school. The students are very respectful of differences, and, coincidentally, we don’t have any ‘born in the wrong body’ talk, because children can see that their friends who use wheelchairs might be upset by this assertion.

Ooh. I did archery for a while.

What you experienced, Alpha, is a universal experience for many, many boys and girls. In your case, it was rugby. In my case, it was hockey. I was good at athletics and could outrun anyone. But when it came to team sports I wasn’t great, and the aggression and determination of the girls playing hockey was pretty intimidating, especially as they took it very seriously and would get annoyed at other players making mistakes. I was often the last to get picked for the team. It does knock your confidence but I had my revenge on sports day as I was a very fast sprinter and could leave them all flailing behind.

Growing up, I also loved The Karate Kid and so I joined a martial arts class. Great fun. I was still a girl, not a boy. I do wonder if you’re trolling with your stereotypes about women being delicate flowers who don’t want to play rough sports.

Sorry only 2 genders male and female

I believe that in NZ men play netball.

I mean it was the 70s and 80s and i had no choice, and i saw that pp mentioned at their school they separate the competitive from the non-competitive kids.

But OP (over a couple of threads) hasn't managed to answer me this:

Could Alpha seriously stand in front of: Jess Ennis, Martina Navratilova, Riley Gaines, Jill Scott, Serena Williams... and with a straight face tell them that women aren't competitive? I get that Alpha is ND. But i also understand that ND people can understand when told over and over and over and over and over again (ad nauseam ad infinitum) that they are wrong with their gender stereotypes, and offensive with it, and Alpha should just pack it in now. Or be reported for trolling.

I loved archery (although twanging your boob with the bowspring 😬) and climbing but I only did tasters because they didn't do them at my school.

It seems the OP has done one. Not necessarily a bad thing because they seem to be taking the piss with their comments on women and sport. Obviously never considered how intensely physical childbirth can be.

Ffs assigned rugby at birth 🤡

They’ll probably be back. As has been said, it is half-term.

Actually Switzer put male on the application form and had her coach pick up the number. This was the actual cause of consternation from the organisers, the fact there was a woman in the men’s division and it could have affected accreditation.

Switzer was not the first woman to run the Boston marathon, that was Bobbi Gibb:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/66615089.amp

No I don't they shouldnt be forced but nor should they be entitled to join a female contact sport team.either

Then you don’t understand a large number of women.

Whether you enjoy this sort of sport has nothing to do with your sex. It has to do with your personality and your physicality.

What's the next thread going to be? "I like kittens and puppies. Women like kittens and puppies. So I am a woman."

Knitting?

Back in 1980 we played a game of hockey against a girls school. I have never been so bruised in all my life. 3 boys were sent off for reacting physically. Where did you get this idea that all girls are delicate flowers? Some are genuinely competitive. Underestimate them at your peril!

Sexist crap. Reporting

There's nowt wrong with a bit of 'ritualised combat', it can be tremendously good fun. I grew up fighting two brothers, climbing trees and running about on rocky hillsides and loved it. If girls had been allowed to play rugby in the 70s I'd been at the front of the queue. Instead I joined a Judo club and relished the grappling and testing my ability and strength.

Just for fun, here's 11-year old .

Oh well at least anyone who was feeling sorry for OP on the other threads can stop now

Wrong link, it was .

Oh no. They will still post.

I have been through the utter shock of seeing the misogyny and emotional manipulation posted. I am currently in the ‘it is all futile with this poster’ phase.

What I think, is that someone should get in really quickly on the next one and post a reader’s note so that new readers understand the background here. But it would have to be carefully worded to escape deletion.

Or we can just watch as one by one more women’s interest here is piqued. Sunlight is very refreshing.

I've had versions of this conversation so very many times. The socialisation shines through clear and bright.