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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transmisia

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HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 19/10/2023 15:29

Or TP apparently they are the same.

When I looked up a definition of TP I found this on the US Planned parenting site .

It seems to me that I am probably TP or TM by their definition and if directed to me as a slur, I would now just thank them !

As regards these examples I agree with or do them all the time ( in the case of the latter ones )

  • State laws that prevent transgender or nonbinary people from using the restroom that aligns with their gender identity; ✔️
  • federal laws that prevent transgender or nonbinary people from accessing health care or playing sports;✔️
  • media that stereotypes transgender people as faking,✔️ confused, ✔️evil, mentally ill✔️, hypersexual✔️, or bad;
  • repeatedly or intentionally using someone’s wrong name (aka deadnaming✔️) or wrong pronouns or other words✔️ (aka misgendering);

Maybe we should stop thinking that TP is a slur we want to avoid and own it!

It reminds me of that scene in Pride ( one of my favourite films) when the Gays decide to own the slur “perverts” hence the fund raising concert being called “Pits and Perverts”

ps I also would thank someone who called me woke as that seems to be appropriate too in all things other than trans stuff.

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BloodyHellKen · 19/10/2023 15:38

What's TP? I it an American thing? (I assume you are in the US as you sound like you might be)

Also, what is transmisia ?

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Mochudubh · 19/10/2023 16:29

I thought you meant Transmesia, as in "The inability to remember anything, anywhere, anytime when on the witness stand in an employment tribunal".

catduckgoose · 19/10/2023 16:38

I don't agree with either of these words. For me it's not a fear or a hatred, but a disagreement with their beliefs.

Perhaps instead of the suffix being based on φόβος (fear) or μῖσος (hatred), it should be ἀπιστία (disbelief). Which I guess would be transapistia in English.

I'll happily admit to being transapistic!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/10/2023 18:38

Also, what is transmisia ?

A silly made up term for not believing males can be women.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 19/10/2023 19:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/10/2023 18:38

Also, what is transmisia ?

A silly made up term for not believing males can be women.

Maybe I hadn’t heard of it before . I used it because I thought using the other word would draw attention of Mumsnet towers to the post who sometimes seem quick to take posts down ! Massive fail on my part, sorry !

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IncomingTraffic · 19/10/2023 20:10

Is this just that some TRAs feel they don’t have enough special ways to talk about being the most marginalised and vulnerable groups.

Too special for just the suffix phobia. 🙄

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/10/2023 21:23

Maybe I hadn’t heard of it before . I used it because I thought using the other word would draw attention of Mumsnet towers to the post who sometimes seem quick to take posts down ! Massive fail on my part, sorry !

It's not your fault! You didn't invent the word. As pp said it's an extra super special I'm too important for boring old transphobia.

mauvish · 19/10/2023 21:40

federal laws that prevent transgender or nonbinary people from accessing health care or playing sports;

I doubt there are any federal laws that stop trans people from accessing HC or playing sports.

(unlike say, Afghanistan, where women are indeed prevented from accessing health care and sporting facilities, whilst men are not. Hmm, what's the % trans population in Afghanistan?)

Codlingmoths · 19/10/2023 21:45

You do or agree with all of those things?? That’s just transphobia. I want everyone to have access to healthcare. Safe, suitable, evidenced healthcare. Everyone should have access to sports, but sex based categories should be retained. I wouldn’t actually deadname anyone directly except particular violent criminals we all know about usually.

DarkDayforMN · 19/10/2023 22:44

I want everyone to have access to healthcare. Safe, suitable, evidenced healthcare. Everyone should have access to sports, but sex based categories should be retained.

you’re falling for the spin! There aren’t any laws in the USA preventing trans people from accessing healthcare or playing sports. The laws being referred to ban poorly evidenced trans healthcare for children, and ban males from female sports.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 19/10/2023 23:31

Maybe I am falling for the spin too . I suppose the point I was making was that everyone seems so scared of being transphobic , we don’t say things aloud , we worry what others will think . Any GC thing we say seems labelled transphobic I wonder if we should just turn it around and say so what ! Is it such a bad thing . It would certainly take the winds out of the sails if you just agree and own the label

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