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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Stephannee · 18/10/2023 16:51

"What is it to you what women discuss"

By "women" you mean gender critical activists, right?

This includes males too such as glinner and the far right American middle-aged men who lost their minds over a can of beer.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/10/2023 16:54

Operation #letthemspeak going splendidly 😁

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 16:55

No. I mean women!

You can try all you like to bring people who are not feminists into these threads but readers can see what you are motivated by. Your own misogyny. It is clear with each and every post.

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 16:57

And again with the use of 'gender critical activists' being used to demonise feminists.

Keep on posting here Steph, you are not convincing anyone of any of the things you are attempting to on FWR. But you ARE posting such enlightening posts. Thank you for the live demonstration that just keeps on giving.

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:00

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 16:55

No. I mean women!

You can try all you like to bring people who are not feminists into these threads but readers can see what you are motivated by. Your own misogyny. It is clear with each and every post.

No, you mean people with gender critical beliefs such as Graham Linehan for example whom is a significant public figure amongst GCAs.

It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are.

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:01

"And again with the use of 'gender critical activists' being used to demonise feminists."

If you dislike it then why do posters here insist on using "TRA" for anyone who has a different view?

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2023 17:02
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Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:03

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:00

No, you mean people with gender critical beliefs such as Graham Linehan for example whom is a significant public figure amongst GCAs.

It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are.

No. This is YOU continuing to use a now meaningless term to demonise feminists. This was explained to you by several posters pages back.

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:07

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:00

No, you mean people with gender critical beliefs such as Graham Linehan for example whom is a significant public figure amongst GCAs.

It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are.

"It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are."

Women? Or female people?

So, on one hand you are now leveraging the biological sex of a group of humans while using that leverage to uphold the erasure of the boundaries of that group.

Do you actually understand what you are doing? Can you apply critical thinking here? Or are you either so determined to demonise and shame female people that you are not able to apply critical thinking or you are not strong on critical thinking.

Doesn't matter either way. The result is the same.

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:08

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:01

"And again with the use of 'gender critical activists' being used to demonise feminists."

If you dislike it then why do posters here insist on using "TRA" for anyone who has a different view?

Again, this has been explained to you. You are misusing a term that you don't seem to even fucking understand.

HootyMcBooby76 · 18/10/2023 17:11

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 16:51

"What is it to you what women discuss"

By "women" you mean gender critical activists, right?

This includes males too such as glinner and the far right American middle-aged men who lost their minds over a can of beer.

What the fuck is a "gender critical activist" when it's at home?
I'm not an activist by any stretch of the imagination, I'm simply a woman calling out absolute bullshit.
And a believer in biology.

Actually, scratch that, biology is not a belief, it is a FACT that neither you nor those whom you are so desperate to validate, can change.

Also, gender is a pile of dogshit, made up bollocks.
There is only biological sex. Everything else is just personality.

Discussing reality and calling out bullshite does not make one "an activist".

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:14

"What the fuck is a "gender critical activist"

What the fuck is a "TRA"? Someone who has differing views than a GRA?

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:28

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:14

"What the fuck is a "gender critical activist"

What the fuck is a "TRA"? Someone who has differing views than a GRA?

Again, you seem to be lost in trying to 'gotcha' posters that you don't understand the significance of the question.

I repeat, that you have had the term 'gender critical' explained to you. That you cannot understand that readers of this thread have read and likely understand that you are using a meaningless term is not something that anyone should have to explain again.

And not even that.... "Someone who has differing views than a GRA"? Seriously? This is pure gold.

There are a huge number of people who are neither. Annexing their opinions and their energies is a bit much really. But way to try to spread misinformation that has absolutely no basis in reality. You are doing really well here, keep on going!

Reader's note: This is a great example of the 'all or nothing' style of argument that we often see. It is absolutist and doesn't reflect reality at all. No, people who don't agree that gender stereotypes and gendered roles should be prioritised in law and policy are not automatically 'trans rights activists' at all. No matter how some people would really like this to be true.

mentalhealthq · 18/10/2023 17:50

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:14

"What the fuck is a "gender critical activist"

What the fuck is a "TRA"? Someone who has differing views than a GRA?

A trans rights activist is someone fighting for trans people to have, and keep, rights that no other group has, at the expense of women.

A "gender critical activist" isn't really a thing. There is just an increasing number of women saying no.

MargotBamborough · 18/10/2023 17:52

Stephannee · 18/10/2023 17:00

No, you mean people with gender critical beliefs such as Graham Linehan for example whom is a significant public figure amongst GCAs.

It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are.

What does "supportive of trans rights" mean?

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:59

MargotBamborough · 18/10/2023 17:52

What does "supportive of trans rights" mean?

It will be remarkable to see what this poster answers Margot because most posters on this board and most feminists would say that they support trans people's rights to not be negatively discriminated against and to be safeguarded, and where a conflict in trans people's rights and those for all female people occur then an equitable solution needs to be found.

It is yet another example of this poster having no real understanding of the discussions on this board that they think this is some kind of 'gotcha'. It is actually laughable that they are so confident in what they plop down.

MargotBamborough · 18/10/2023 18:17

Helleofabore · 18/10/2023 17:59

It will be remarkable to see what this poster answers Margot because most posters on this board and most feminists would say that they support trans people's rights to not be negatively discriminated against and to be safeguarded, and where a conflict in trans people's rights and those for all female people occur then an equitable solution needs to be found.

It is yet another example of this poster having no real understanding of the discussions on this board that they think this is some kind of 'gotcha'. It is actually laughable that they are so confident in what they plop down.

Well I would agree with that so I guess that makes me supportive of trans rights.

I don't agree that trans rights should come at the expense of women's rights and I doubt most other women do either.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 18/10/2023 18:45

Trans rights activist is exactly what it says on the tin…whatever the definition of rights is

a womans rights activist is also self explanatory

i have no idea what a gender critical activist is 😳

its a bit schoolyard really

TinaYouFatLard · 18/10/2023 19:11

It might surprise you to learn amongst the general population women are actually more supportive of trans rights than men are.

What are women, Stephonknee?

HootyMcBooby76 · 18/10/2023 20:01

Prove that gender exists in an objectifiable, measurable, repeatable and scientific way.

Prove it.

You can't, because it's made up hogwash of the highest order.

On the other hand, I can prove that sex exists in an objectifiable, measurable, repeatable and scientific way.
Because it exists and it is real.

Don't get angry now.

Maaate · 19/10/2023 20:34

Oh, is this Stephannee talking over women and telling them that regardless of wha they actually said they really meant something completely different?

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