Dylan again

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/13/us-tiktok-trans-activist-woman-of-the-year-award-bud-light-boycott

And Paloma, very disappointing. By all means condemn bigotry but “ basic right to live (as she) was born to be”. Dylan was born male , deciding to change gender was a considered decision and a choice.

The Pink News editor in the Twitter thread was complaining about the LGB Alliance who are - checks notes - an organisation for lesbians, gays and bisexuals. So I’m not sure they’d be unleashing ‘homophobic’ abuse against the PN guy.

If you haven’t already, Steph, I recommend listening to the Witch Trials of JK Rowling podcast and also reading the essay she wrote about the male violence she experienced in the past, as it gives an insight into why she has become such a vocal campaigner for women’s rights.

I suggest you could then post examples of her transphobia here so we can all see it? Because so far they have not posted any evidence on Pink News or anywhere. If you think that what they post is convincing, your bar for credible evidence and logic is even lower than you have shown here so far.

The LGB Alliance are a hate group. They do nothing or almost nothing to actually benefit LGB people and spend their time and resources talking about trans people. The name is misleading.

93% of their membership is hetero I understand?

I don't know why people fall for the derailing every single time

That news article is a bloody joke, USA prisons clearly are a serious safeguarding issue to pregnant and birthing women, along with their unborn and birthing baby.

If prick news had any evidence of transphobia from JKR, they would have been straight there with their hand out for the £1mill prize!

My view:
Transwomen can have their space (between trans and women) when they give us women our spaces.
I’ll “be kind” when the same consideration is shown by transpeople.
Correctly using sex-based pronouns is not hateful, it is biological reality, and #IwillNotLie.

Isn’t it surprising how user names can’t hide patterns? LGB alliance is not a hate group. Gosh, did you miss the court case findings??

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/06/trans-charity-mermaids-fails-to-have-charitable-status-stripped-from-lgb-alliance

Hypocritically Mermaids lost a great deal of any remaining credibility and looked like a hate group themselves trying to establish that. Well, if they even had any left after so many incidents but after the Breslow and the pornstar comms officer red flag safeguarding breaches.

And in trying to prop up such ridiculousness ended up with the Charity Commission investigating them, Mermaids, too. While stonewall, who orchestrated things in the background, watched on. Knowing that after Forstater and Bailey cases, Stonewall’s reputation was still in tatters and they could not be draw anymore attention to their machinations while still losing corporate sponsorship every year.

Strange that you don’t recall that falsity being completely debunked in that charity commission case though.

But then, your comprehension level seems to be rather low, this may be true or an assumed characteristic or the result of many things. However, all you are doing here is showing readers just how dishonest, misogynistic, and how lacking in intellectual rigor the arguments you keep repeating are. In fact, every time you repeat some tropish accusation such as this, or you hypocritically politicise a family’s tragedy, or whatever, you simply show that your posts repeating the extreme trans activist arguments are false and empty of substance.

I don’t even think now in your pursuit of scolding women, and the humiliation that brings, that you support trans people. I think readers would have twigged with the vile posts leveraging a family’s tragedy.

Anyway, for those reading along, here is the background and the latest membership breakdown for LGB Alliance brought up in this latest fuckwittery from this poster.

From:

https://lgballiance.org.uk/facts/

Fact: Most LGB Alliance supporters are LGB

One particularly sticky myth is that only 7% of LGB Alliance supporters are lesbians. Here’s how that started:

We were delighted to be able to support Allison Bailey at her tribunal in the form of a witness statement to help prove that gender critical people are likely to be women and lesbians. As part of that we shared some numbers from our newsletter subscriber list.

We used Mailchimp to send our newsletter and when we set up our account in 2019 we added some subscriber questions which, as it turned out, provided us with ambiguous data.

We asked people whether they were lesbian, whether they were lesbian/gay or if they preferred not to say. The flaws being that we couldn’t tell whether those who ticked lesbian/gay were men or women and that none of the fields were compulsory – so many people skipped them altogether.

The result was that we had 4,502 newsletter subscribers and 316 ticked the box describing themselves as lesbian. That’s 7% of the total. A further 949 ticked the box lesbian/gay and 1,427 were unspecified or preferred not to say. Based on that data that means that between 316 (7%) and 2,376 (53%) of our subscribers were lesbian.
The 7% figure was used in court because it’s important that evidence is based on provable fact and it is a fact that, at a minimum, 7% of our subscribers were lesbians. However, common sense told us that that number was really much higher.

In August 2022 we commissioned a survey of our subscribers to help us plan to deliver services and support to LGB people. One of the questions we asked was about sexual orientation. That data showed that 34% are lesbian, 33% are gay men, 12% are bisexual, 20% are heterosexual and 1% preferred not to say. We are satisfied that this data is robust.

Now shall we look at the Stonewall membership? Oh better not. The numbers of lesbian and gay people there would be very difficult to extract from those misapplying the labels to themselves. And that is not even getting into all the spicy straights who call themselves ‘queer’ or those under other initials. The quest for the increase in membership funding seems to have dramatically diluted Stonewall’s membership as well as their remit.

Because every time we do it either gives new readers insights into how deeply misogynistic or entrenched in prejudice those derailers are and they see the falsehoods exposed. It is rarely done for other reasons, regardless of the username derailing.

Every time it exposes the fuckwittery tactics and once you see it unpicked, it is hard to find back to a place of simply accepting those tired old arguments again. So, while you obviously don’t feel it is worth it, others see the value.

Also, that particular poster, Stephannee, certainly to me, comes across as so angry.

Furious with gay people at LGBA, filled with rage at JKR, what with her daring to be popular and successful. And women in general having opinions that poster cant control.

Biggest, most effective advert for single sex spaces ever.

Yes, anger that women aren’t complying can cause cognitive and comprehension decline.

Funnily enough, Stephan still doesn’t seem to understand that just because they say so, or say it often enough, that it doesn’t make it real, true or valid.

#IwillNotLie

Stephannee, if you rewrite your sentence, but swap “LGBT people” and “women”, then you will realise that that is how women feel.

So we won’t be backing down anytime soon.

Oh you lot, just been kind as a man has asked you to be 🙄. While you are about it run the hover run and make his dinner. Don't forget to pop some lippy on and wear a pretty dress while your are at it. If this all seems a bit too difficult ask a man how to do it. Some of them are much better at womaning than us mere women.

And do your hair! For goodness sake, do something with your hair!

Well, I think I can say from
reading Stephonee’s posts for the past few weeks that this poster has strangely the same points they repeatedly use compared to ‘some’ other posters from the past. And the same habit of making unevidenced claims that they must know will never stand up to scrutiny and counter evidence.

Such as the LGB Alliance membership, the constant refrain that the Alliance is a hate group, the denial that a gay man was assaulted at Manchester pride because ‘it was only his hat stolen’ forgetting the hat was on his head and that constitutes assault. And now the weird repetition across numerous threads about Joanne Rowling ‘guffawing’. But always the usual misogyny, support for prostitution, dismissal of violence, the dehumanising of women who disagree with them (using ‘gender critical’ in different formats but always the same way - forced teaming and a term of abuse) and so on.

The point has been made over the years that ‘some’ posters, those specifically which share these habits, are not doing anything to support trans people. They make the extremists claims here and they get calmly, some time laughingly, refuted. All while showing how ridiculous they were in the first place. But the pattern remains the same with some minor character tweaks along the way.

There are a few conclusions as to what the benefit ‘some’ posters derive from this is. One is that they are overwhelmingly motivated by the need to scold women under different guises. I won’t go through the others as it would probably be deleted. I think most regulars will get it though

LGB Alliance that recently stood up for the right of a lesbian to hold a women only event? Where Stonewall weren't interested in representing her? That LBG Alliance?

Oh, I almost threw the laptop across the room when I read they awardded that pisstaker Woman of the Year.

When the scales eventually fall from the 'kind' people's eyes, they are going to start feeling pretty bloody stupid.