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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Last minute TRA attempt to get FiLiA cancelled fails

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2023 17:50

www.thenational.scot/news/23851055.venue-forced-u-turn-cancelling-transphobic-event-legal-action-threat/

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ArabellaScott · 13/10/2023 20:26

'Green councillor calls us ‘anti sex worker’ - we literally have women who have managed to exit the sex trade in our volunteering team, and have multiple talks and panels led by women who have lived the brutal reality of the sex industry'

https://twitter.com/FreyaVanadiss/status/1712890521176191241

https://twitter.com/FreyaVanadiss/status/1712890521176191241

ArabellaScott · 13/10/2023 20:42

And the disgrace that is the National produces partisan report shocker:

https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1712797077783380097

https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1712797077783380097

ApocalipstickNow · 13/10/2023 20:43

“Anti sex worker” was used on the Reddit thread as well.

if Filia are discussing the plight of trafficked women, then accusing them of being anti sex workers seems even more disturbing than the TWAW stuff. Who are they defending if anti trafficking is seen as anti sex workers?

Waitwhat23 · 13/10/2023 20:55

ArabellaScott · 13/10/2023 20:42

And the disgrace that is the National produces partisan report shocker:

https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1712797077783380097

If the National told me it was raining, I'd have to go outside to check. A National embarrassment of a paper. Genuinely absolutely mortifying.

This is the 'newspaper' that had to redesign their masthead for the second edition because the first, a map depicting Scotland, had missed out Shetland. The National.

vegancheeseplant · 13/10/2023 22:30

I was there. They were on the other side of the road, and there was a good police presence separating them and protecting the entrance.

Happy to report that just as I arrived under the Hielanman's Umbrella, I passed two 20-something lads who demonstrated the most concise takedown of gender ideology heard yet: "Change your sex and get intae a wimmin's jail? Aye, fuck that."

Oh, and not that there's anything wrong with being older ofc, but there was a wide range of ages in attendance, so they can shove their lies and misogyny up their bahookies.

Froodwithatowel · 14/10/2023 09:12

ApocalipstickNow · 13/10/2023 20:43

“Anti sex worker” was used on the Reddit thread as well.

if Filia are discussing the plight of trafficked women, then accusing them of being anti sex workers seems even more disturbing than the TWAW stuff. Who are they defending if anti trafficking is seen as anti sex workers?

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Madder than a box of frogs.

This political movement has no middle gears. It's full on lunacy at high speed or screaming about oppression.

IamSarah · 14/10/2023 14:55

I thought this response to the TRA protests from one of the stewards was fabulous 😂

x.com/sarahsurviving/status/1712767239219282195?s=46&t=NGJBRqkXgp1UazF5I8yjXA

Stephannee · 14/10/2023 15:13

ApocalipstickNow · 13/10/2023 20:43

“Anti sex worker” was used on the Reddit thread as well.

if Filia are discussing the plight of trafficked women, then accusing them of being anti sex workers seems even more disturbing than the TWAW stuff. Who are they defending if anti trafficking is seen as anti sex workers?

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From what I've seen "TERFs" and "SWERFs" generally tend to be the same group of people.

ApocalipstickNow · 14/10/2023 15:21

Yes people who are against sex traffickers. 🤷‍♀️

Any answer as to who is being defended if your mates are against those who wish to end women being trafficked?

Froodwithatowel · 14/10/2023 15:31

And kittens are definitely lettuces, which are mostly screwdrivers used to set trifle.

yourhairiswinterfire · 14/10/2023 15:32

How does being against the trafficking of women and children to be sexually abused = 'anti-trans' and 'anti-LGBT', Stephannee?

You surely aren't suggesting that to be pro-trans and pro-LGBT you must support sex trafficking, so what is your actual point?

Stephannee · 14/10/2023 15:39

ApocalipstickNow · 14/10/2023 15:21

Yes people who are against sex traffickers. 🤷‍♀️

Any answer as to who is being defended if your mates are against those who wish to end women being trafficked?

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I think it's fair to say everyone is against sex and other forms of trafficking. However SWERFs tend to go further and are against the sex industry entirely and may advocate for laws and approaches which may endanger consenting sexworkers and trafficked victims.

ApocalipstickNow · 14/10/2023 15:50

Yet this is not what has been posted about Filia and TRAs are still complaining that women should not campaign to end women forced into sexual slavery.

yourhairiswinterfire -exactly. There’s a very disturbing edge to men complaining about this.

TinselAngel · 14/10/2023 17:19

Some people like imagining themselves as oppressed "sex workers".

MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/10/2023 18:32

#OperationLetThemSpeak in real life. Always useful to have real life MRAs on here reminding women just how lacking in care and empathy for women they are. Let alone defending the silencing of women protesting about women's rights.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/10/2023 19:02

From what I've seen "TERFs" and "SWERFs" generally tend to be the same group of people.

Yes, feminists who care about women and girls.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/10/2023 19:03

TinselAngel · 14/10/2023 17:19

Some people like imagining themselves as oppressed "sex workers".

Envy not envy, a glimpse into some people's minds always makes me feel like I need a shower

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Helleofabore · 14/10/2023 20:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/10/2023 19:03

Envy not envy, a glimpse into some people's minds always makes me feel like I need a shower

Indeed eresh. A male rights campaigner keen on shaming women for protecting women and girls from the sex trade. Goodness…. Imagine what kind of male shames women for campaigning to end the coercive and exploitative nature of the sex trade. One who cannot understand coercion and exploitation, maybe? Who cannot fathom why so few wealthy women choose to enter into sex work and into jobs where they have little choice which orifice some random’s dick is shoved, or forced, into? Those without some degradation fetish that is.

Oh… the myth of the happy prostitute, eh? All a wonderful choice is it what?

The ignorance about women is so fucking clear isn’t it.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/10/2023 23:04

SWERF is just another of those pejorative acronyms invented by people who don't give a shit about women's rights.

TeiTetua · 14/10/2023 23:48

Here's the Herald's article, with a picture of some 20 or so protesters. How many of them look like XX-chromosome women? Mostly not, but I think there are a few.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23853565.filia-glasgow-activists-protest-transphobic-event/

At least the headline puts the word 'transphobic' between inverted commas.

Activists protest outside 'transphobic' feminist event in Glasgow

Trans rights activists protest outside FiLiA feminist conference in Platform, Glasgow, featuring speakers Julie Bindel and Joanna Cherry.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23853565.filia-glasgow-activists-protest-transphobic-event

Helleofabore · 15/10/2023 07:07

Stephannee · 14/10/2023 15:39

I think it's fair to say everyone is against sex and other forms of trafficking. However SWERFs tend to go further and are against the sex industry entirely and may advocate for laws and approaches which may endanger consenting sexworkers and trafficked victims.

So you support an industry that exploits women’s bodies as a resource for any male to reduce that woman into a fuck hole for pay? And you wish to show your support of the degradation of women by attempting to shame feminists who understand the power relationship here?

Why? Seems again you are showing how clueless you are in your attempts to shame feminists. And by doing so you show your misogyny.

Who benefits exactly from portraying the prostitution of women as being a healthy employment decision? Is it a role you wish to choose or have chosen? You ok with having a cock shoved anywhere the cock’s owner wants to fuck? And you think it is a role women should legitimately consider as a career move?

What an ignorant fucking post? You think this is some ‘gotcha’ and those women choosing to do are doing it from a position of empowerment ? Can you scrape any fucking lower with your ridiculous attempts to present some kind of coherent counter arguments or do you think your job is done here?

ArabellaScott · 15/10/2023 07:41

TeiTetua · 14/10/2023 23:48

Here's the Herald's article, with a picture of some 20 or so protesters. How many of them look like XX-chromosome women? Mostly not, but I think there are a few.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23853565.filia-glasgow-activists-protest-transphobic-event/

At least the headline puts the word 'transphobic' between inverted commas.

The comments are showing Scotland at its best. 😁

Froodwithatowel · 15/10/2023 08:30

TeiTetua · 14/10/2023 23:48

Here's the Herald's article, with a picture of some 20 or so protesters. How many of them look like XX-chromosome women? Mostly not, but I think there are a few.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23853565.filia-glasgow-activists-protest-transphobic-event/

At least the headline puts the word 'transphobic' between inverted commas.

I always have the urge to go and hand out juice and biscuits. Looks like the cast of Hair on a break between performances. Except a bit less 'end the war' and 'age of Aquarius' than 'make homosexual women do men' and 'let men do whatever they want to and with women without the bitches being able to say no' and 'down with women having equality'.

The songs will be a lot less catchy.

Feministwoman · 15/10/2023 14:04

Well it was a privilege to watch and listen to JKR, Julie Bindel and Clare Heuchan in conversation at FiLiA this morning Lots of serious stuff discussed, but my goodness such fun as well.

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