Call a Waaahmbulance for r/glasgow on Reddit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization/

Their minds are as tight shut as a gnat's chuff.

No, they just delete any gender critical posts very quickly, as a large number of mods are TRAs. I didn't see any abuse when I looked, just people asking why Filia were considered transphobic.

Reddit has historically had some very nasty subreddits including violent and sexual ones against women, so I don't buy your faux naivety about the rape one. They have banned a number of them (and the Gender Critical one, because TRAs). Here's a list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities

I agree setting off a smoke screen at the site of a tragic fire is very insensitive, but IMO it isn't on the same level as making a hoax bomb threat on a children's hospital requiring evacuation, having the bomb squad called in and causing mass fear and panic.

What are you defining as a "gender critical account"?

Do you understand that there is a difference between a gender critical feminist and someone who hates trans people?

If not, you need to educate yourself.

If you do, how can you be sure that Catherine Leavy is in the former category and not the latter?

Yes but on what basis are you attributing the latter to gender critical feminists? This is a very serious allegation.

Errr we need you to do more than possibly recall correctly. Evdience and context, please. What was the twitter account and what did they post? How do you know that the woman who made the threats was gender critical?

Surely, surely, no one who frequents this board could be ignorant enough to think that anyone who hates trans people is gender critical and vice versa.

Surely.

Surely they'd at least try to understand the first thing about the people they are arguing against and, in some cases, accusing of crimes, before they open their mouths.

How surprising. A person is being held responsible for another person's lack of impulse control....

And by the way, the hospital might not have done a hysterectomy on under 18s but they DID or do offer double mastectomies to under 18s. Gosh.... tell us Stephannee, what is the difference in your mind between the two surgeries done on healthy body parts in under 18s?

Please do be very specific about the relevance of the difference in your mind.

Ok to chop of the healthy breasts, NOT Ok to take out the ovaries..... the relevance is .......what?

Ok. Again please tell us the relevance of your equivocation and dismissal here.

Ok to terrorise, actually let of smoke bombs, in the vicinity of where many people lost their lives and their loved ones and their homes because it was not 'the same level' as a bomb threat. Both are equally horrific in my mind. But hey.... you are the one here who is equivocating.

Please, again be very specific about why. Both causing mass fear and panic or do you honestly believe that no one felt fear or panic that night that activists let of smoke bombs in Grenfell?

And that article that was posted about the children's hospital threat didn't make any assumptions about so called 'gender critical' in any case. This could have been a person with a previous grievance about the hospital who upon reading something that they could not control their impulse to react completely disproportionately and abhorrently.

Again, unless Stephanee posts something definitive to support the outrageous claims they have made, it is all based on dismissal and minimisation for a group letting off smoke bombs in Grenfell and then heavily twisting who made a bomb threat to a hospital and laying the blame at a person who made a tweet. While dismissing all the fucking tweets directly threatening violence and rape to women by male individual with trans identities that are so numerous that they cannot be all captured.....

And nothing yet to support accusations about feminists being 'on the side of' nazis?

They won't find anything to support this because there is nothing to find.

I doubt some of these people could accurately define the terms 'feminist' or 'Nazi' (let alone 'gender critical')

Hmm, my police force in the Midlands, England, wouldn't be at all bothered about rapists in several other countries. The UK police aren't even bothered about 'activist' men actually here in the UK threatening to rape and murder 'terfs' (bet you've never ever ever seen or heard anything like that either), and the police advice is for the woman to come off social media if she doesn't like it, so...

There are rapists being misgendered, elderly women taking photographs of stickers, and disabled, autistic kids aren't going to bully themselves, so I guess it's unreasonable of us to expect the police to spare a minute to investigate rape and death threats when they've got all that super serious shit going on.

But anyway, back to the point of the thread, why do some trans activists and the lovely lads on Reddit want to prevent women from speaking at a conference about the loss of women's rights in Afghanistan, child marriage, FGM, etc? You 'had a thought' that the staff at the venue should all 'fall ill' at the same time to stop this event, so you agree with them that these speakers shouldn't be heard?

If so, can you please explain why? How are these women from countries where women and girls are treated as subhuman and the property of men harming trans people here in the UK by sharing their experiences?

If someone accuses your side of being largely ridiculous, you can't refute that by saying, "what about you?".

Like someone accusing a person of having a ridiculous haircut, they can be correct about that, even if they have a ridiculous haircut themselves.

But let's be generous, and say that it could still be fair rhetoric in some circumstances.

But your own point just doesn't mean anything. Or very little anyway. It doesn't mean that the GC feminist side is also largely ridiculous. It only means that a small number of individuals, likely not even identifying as GC feminist, can act in criminal ways over certain issues tied up with the debate. OK, how is that a response to your side being largely ridiculous?

As for Nazis, that would be a guilt by association fallacy. Also, they probably aren't going to really like the GC feminist perspective. There may be some overlap where they can agree, but that overlap is also shared with mainstream conservatives and plenty of people on the left. That it's also shared with Nazis is just meaningless.

Well this definitely isn't the 'steel manning' thread.

I agree setting off a smoke screen at the site of a tragic fire is very insensitive

Yes. It is. Smoke bombs.

Stephannee · Today 14:18

...but IMO it isn't on the same level as making a hoax bomb threat on a children's hospital...

A threat against, not on. Tsk! Honestly!

The person who organised the TRA protest at Portsmouth FiLiA too was called Stephanie, oddly enough, although spelled a bit differently.

The one with the obscene drawings & abusive language chalked on the ground in a busy square for children to see, and where the protesters yelled abuse that was easily audible inside, where women were talking about their experiences of sexual abuse.

They really covered themselves in glory that day. I wonder if that Stephanie's in Glasgow.

The one with the obscene drawings & abusive language chalked on the ground in a busy square for children to see

Julie Bindel at the time:

At the end of today’s conference, there will be a vigil to honour the many victims of femicide. The plan was to be outside, in the weak autumn sunshine, reading out the names of the women who died at the hands of men and to call for an end to deadly male violence. The fact that we will have to do this on a pavement defaced with such misogynistic graffiti is as heart-breaking as it is infuriating.

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-misogyny-of-trans-activists/?=frpo

I'm just going to ignore the posts from our current resident TRA as frankly, I just can't be arsed.

Anyway, Councillor Elaine Gallagher attended the protest at Filia, standing front and centre with the ridiculous man shouting 'fuck you' at women. Councillor Gallagher is Scottish Greens (unsurprisingly) and his male privilege just shines through.

@Stephannee Do you have any proof that the bomb threat you referred to earlier was made by a gender critical feminist?

I was told by a 'Steph' who was male that I was directly responsible for the violence of male people assaulting each other and intimidating women in front of the WiSpa.... just by discussing the rights of the six year old and the nine year old girls who had been exposed to aroused penised in the female only spa section.

There’s also Stefonknee in Canada, the trans six-year-old.

was told by a 'Steph' who was male that I was directly responsible for the violence of male people assaulting each other and intimidating women in front of the WiSpa....

Yes, I was told I was responsible for the Proud Boys turning up

Fresh (that's me) People were stabbed, that's without dispute. Far right morons turned up as a result widespread GC rhetoric. Trans people have had to own the prison service mistake with regards to KW. These things don't happen in a vaccuum, you and the right wing thugs you have whipped into a frenzy own this. It's fine to GC, just own the disgusting things that you incite. The deflection and avoidance of responsibility is almost as bad the act itself. I feel for you, I really do, there's just no hope. Take care.

Yes. It is remarkable how much direct experience many of us seem to have with these types of accusations and threats. Remarkable behaviour that is not what I would expect from adults.