Call a Waaahmbulance for r/glasgow on Reddit

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https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/17685xs/platform_is_hosting_an_antitrans_organization/

Their minds are as tight shut as a gnat's chuff.

They know this. It's just linguistic nonsense again. What they really mean is 'those women literally believe men are not women' but they don't want to phrase it like that because most people will go well yeah. Doh!

Unless a whole load of you descended on that thread while I was doing the dishes, it was hardly a pile on.

I know they're probably mostly very young, but the mental fragility is really quite sad.

It wasn't an actual pile on.

It was the thought of a pile on.

Yes, well, no shit Sherlock.

Again, if we believed they were women there would be no issue with them using women's single sex spaces.

You would not be the first person to have that thought, as the Scottish Event Campus found out to their large cost. They had tried to cancel a Billy Graham Institute event on the basis ostensibly of 'security' and 'artists might refuse to play here' which were a smokescreen for belief discrimination, similar to your proposal of 'all staff fall ill' as a smokescreen for belief discrimination, and it cost them nearly £100,000. https://judiciary.scot/home/sentences-judgments/judgments/2022/10/25/billy-graham-evangelistic-association-v-scottish-event-campus-limited

Literal violence.

What point are you actually trying to argue?

It looks like 'Reddit = good guys, Mumsnet = big fat meanie women = bad guys'.

That's the same Reddit, btw, that had a sub called 'Guys Should Rape' where men were allowed to share their rape fantasies, where actual rapists discussed their rape of women, and where wannabe rapists detailed their plans, and others asked the actual rapists for tips on how they could rape 'sluts' and then terrorize them into keeping quiet afterwards.

Want to know why the sub was banned?

Because rape is illegal, maybe? Because rape is vile? Because it was a hate sub encouraging violence against women and girls?

Nope. Because it was unmoderated. They banned it because it was unmoderated, not because of the content.

And there are plenty of other horrific subs that are moderated and allowed to stand on that lovely, progressive, good guy Reddit.

The TRAs protesting at FiLiA Portsmouth thought it was reasonable to chalk dick drawings & obscene phrases outside the venue, in a busy public square where children could see them. Also to drown out
women who were speaking about their experience of sexual abuse by shouting abusive comments loudly enough to be heard inside the building.

Where does that fit on the literal violence / pile on scale?

<sigh>

It was me. I piled on, with my whole self and my big coat.

Sorry, lads.

See, I'd assumed this - but I seem to see so many on Twitter/X or Reddit using it literally, or at least talking around that rough phrase as if it's literal!

It's definitely food for thought in regards to how much people will just blindly believe even though they're told third or even fourth hand!

You mean, people would be dishonest rather than come up with literally any counter argument as to why a person shouldn't be critical of gender?

Yes, we'd noticed that. Glad you have too.

Another fun day over on Reddit. Reminds me of the time on a UK sub thread about womens prisons, when I said only biological women should be in there, and I was told it was on me if transwomen were raped, abused or killed in mens prisons. And then I was banned from the sub.

Reddit really doesn’t like women with opinions.

"I was told it was on me if transwomen were raped, abused or killed in mens prisons"

As if to say the rape of a transwoman is inherently worse than that of a biological woman... Good god. Why does everything have to be a competition to TRA's?
Obviously it's not a competition, but do unwanted pregnancies as a result of rape just.. Not come into the equation?
Again, not a contest, but surely in terms of weighing things up, that's objectively worse just on the basis of there being more serious consequences that apply to one and not the other?

Remember ladies, It's on us! 😬

So if a male criminal attacks a male criminal in a male prison while under the care of male prison guards, that is a woman's fault. Fgs

But what will the activists have actually threatened then with? We'll tell all the other wokesters that you're bigots, that kind of thing?
How can they weild so much power?

having penises waved around in a women’s changing room also feels invasive.

Re: standards. It's a concept with a lengthy history (see end of quotations).

Gay Liberation Front journal - Come Together - issue 11: Lesbians Come Together. It's from a piece by the GLF Transvestite, Transsexual and Drag Queen group, originally published in 1972:

A more central question is how to relate to other women. When we talk about our hopes and fantasies, it becomes apparent that what we want above all is to be accepted as women, primarily by other women. But will we achieve this by looking for ways in which we share experience with regular women or by developing a unique transvestite consciousness?

Sometimes the second approach seems real militant and proud, at other times it seems a cop-out, accepting the prejudiced view that we're not women, that we're some freaky third sex (or fourth or fifth?). Possibly we can find some light by considering the situation of black women and gay women, who develop black pride and gay pride, but still explore their feelings as women. Think how much more inspiring and beautiful the women's revolution will be when it joyously includes all women. Think of a Holloway demo with transvestite, transsexual and drag-queen women, gay women and heterosexual women, black, yellow, brown and white women, working women, housewives and career women. Certainly, whatever course we take as transvestites, transsexuals and drag queens, we must first destroy the trap wherein regular women set up standards by which they accept or reject us.

archive.org/details/cometogetheryear00walt/page/8/mode/2up

Certainly, whatever course we take as transvestites, transsexuals and drag queens, we must first destroy the trap wherein regular women set up standards by which they accept or reject us.

There is no trap. Womanhood just isn't about you.

Thanks for sharing that.

So this is the same thinking that led to the Denton guide on how to force team groups and communication to gain acceptance and access to single sex spaces. And a pre runner to the communication guide from the Trans Law Center in the USA where they describe people as ‘persuadables’ and advise on how to convince people through falsely tying trans issues to those of race and other persecutions.

It really becomes clear that a group of people are desperate that people are, sometimes falsely, pushed in affirming they believe in an impossibility (that humans can change sex) and the falsehoods being used to leverage them into accessing spaces and sports with reduced or even no safeguarding processes being followed.

And we have people posting on this thread who are attempting to do it through shaming women too.

It really is enlightening when you understand the tactics and what those tactics show.

I don't see how this is not a veiled threat to uppity women who are gatekeeping womaning from men who want to join in on their man-terms.

accepting the prejudiced view that we're not women, that we're some freaky third sex

Nope. Just bog standard male sex.

I agree with the "bog" bit. Just not the "standard" bit. I'm pretty "standard". OTOH, even most men at their most uncoordinated in the bog don't reach the lows these men do.

The fact that they think we think they are "some freaky third sex" just proves that they are not listening to anything we are saying.

The fact that they think we think they are "some freaky third sex" just proves that they are not listening to anything we are saying.

This. No, you're just male.